Can't Stay in Hotels nor Eat Out?

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  1. Jkdbuck76

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    Hello all,

    Maybe this belongs in another forum, but I'd like to ask a question.

    At work, we had some visitors come in from Australia. They cited religious reasons for:
    1) Not staying in hotels.
    2) Not eating out with us.

    They said that when they travel, they stay with members of their church
    and go to eat at their houses.

    Since I'm the Company Religion Expert, they are asking me "Which religion do they follow?"

    I have no answers.

    Anybody have anything on this?
     
  2. Marcia

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    Whatever it is, it sounds cultic.

    There is a group in Australia that claims to be followers of Jesus Christ but they deny his deity. I can't recall the name of this group, but it sounds Christian. They are very harsh toward anyone who disagrees with their theology.

    I am not saying these people are that group, but could be.
     
  3. I Am Blessed 24

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    We have some Baptist members from Australia on this board. Maybe they can help you.

    Here is the breakdown of Australian Religions.
    Catholic 26.4%
    Anglican 20.5%
    Other Christian 20.5%
    Buddhist 1.9%
    Muslim 1.5%
    other 1.2%

    Muslim, Buddhist, or 'other' maybe?

    I can't see a Muslim sleeping or eating at an 'infidel's' house...
     
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    Do they claim to be Christian? What religion do they say they are?
     
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    We don't stay in Motels or Hotels because the people can be too wild. I think it's a bit dangerous.

    I would say it is for religious reasons, not to be unequally yoked or be exposed to the smut of the world. Not to say anyone who stays in Motels is any better or worse than I, we just had too many problems.

    Last time we stayed in a motel, it was Motel 6 in Reno, NV for our sons Birthday. We usually stay at Atlantis Casino but it was full. He and my nephew (his cousin) were both about 10 years old .A couple in anadjacent room was making noise, nasty words and moans abounded so I assumed it was a guy with a hooker. Ignored it for a while,(it was 3am). It wore on me so I banged on the wall and yelled shut up. They were quiet for a sec (probably shocked) then they banged back yelling something, I couldn't understand it. Then another guy in another adjacent room banged and yelled for them to shut up.
    Then he came out banging on our Motel room door spewing vulgarities and threatening me. His hooker was with him, dressed grossly. The other guy who banged the wall too now came down and told him to shut up or he would kick his butt. Now he was still banging our Motel room door, threatening both of us. We called the police. I thought he was going to break our motel window. But I did bring a gun so we were prepared if needed. No more hotels or motels.

    We only stay in a private room in Hostels. They don't allow alcohol, everyone must be in bed (or at least fairly quiet) by 10 pm. No horse play and the people are of a much higher class than Motel or Hotels. I used to stay in expensive hotels sometimes for work, but still had problems with low class people acting up. Maybe the visitors don't like alot of commotion so they won't eat at unknown public restaurants or stay in hotels.
     
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    Maybe they don't like you...;)

    just kidding, people have their weird little things. For years I went to perfectly good wedding receptions and didn't dance for fear of offending some archane personal principle. Got over that fast.

    Maybe they just value community and personal time. :)
     
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    I don't think it has anything to do with religion, I think its called being "cheap".
    :)
     
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  8. Marcia

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    I doubt it. They were refusing to eat out with their hosts (I assume they are hosts) or co-workers. This would normally be seen as rude. I think there are some religious reasons for this.

    Jkdbuck76, I wish you would tell me whether or not they claim to be Christian. Why don't you just ask them what their religion is, or what religious prohibitions exist that keep them from a motel or restaurant?
     
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    Joe: I can't believe you actually made these statemente!

    I stay in motels all the time and not very expensive ones either (usually a 2 star Travelodge) because I'm only there long enough to sleep. I've never had a problem, but I don't consider myself low-class either. :(

    Money does not = class. Actions do.

    Jesus ate with the Publicans and sinners.
     
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    I think you misread Joe.. I understood him to be saying that actions make a person low class..

    for he said this, ", but still had problems with low class people acting up. Maybe the visitors don't like alot of commotion so they won't eat at unknown public restaurants or stay in hotels."

    To me, he is equating actions with class the same way you did...

    BTW, I agree with both of you...
    Class depends on actions..
     
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    AHA... the same reason when I take a vacation, it is to my dad's house, or my MIL's!!!

    Free room
    Free Board!

    CHEAP... yep, that's me!

    Cheap, but with class!!! :laugh:
     
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    I have no problem with staying in motels---------once I stayed in a "swanky" $200/nite hotel in New Orleans(during a SBC Convention)---the room came with a mini refrigerator that was stocked with cold drinks, beer, candy bars, ice cream---------well---I didn't know the rules------so I had a coke and a candy bar-------when I got the bill---they had charged me somethin' like $2.50 for the coke and $1.75 for the candy bar-------I felt like they ripped me off-----but I didn't complain to the manager--since it was me that ate the chocolate bar and drank the soda!!!!!!!!!!:laugh: :laugh:

    You're at a motel and someone is making too much racket-------don't take matters into your own hands------thats what they make those room phones for-----to call the manager
     
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    Oh no, not that reasoning :laugh:
    Jesus didn't sleep adjacent to a hardly insulated room with a noisy drunk or a vulger harlott & her John. Overlooking gross sin to obtain some shut eye wasn't his way.

    Hostels are known for being cheaper than the cheapest motels/hotels in their area. I firmly believe they attract a higher class of people than Motels/Hotels. Or at least within our usual vacation vicinity (San Francisco Bay area-Reno/Tahoe)

    When traveling for work, about 1/2 the time I was hit on by some lady before I left the Motel/Hotel. Maybe hit on is exaggerated but there seemed to always be some opportunity to hook up. A lady hinting for me to ask her to go to dinner, the Motel clerk has a "friend", etc... Never did opportunities arise in hostels that I can recall, and they have many single men and women who travel. In fact, most of their rooms cater to single people (strangers sleep in bunks sharing a room) No drunks, hookers, or wild people, not even Television...mostly nature type folks who aren't nearly as worldly as the folks in the Motels/Hotels. We play board games, walked to the beach (they are located adjacent to their own private beach) read, cook together in the common kitchen etc..All seem like wholesome, normal acting people.
     
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    I thought this thread about these visitors, not about the merits or demerits of hotels?


    At first thought they sound like "Two by Twos" or "Cooneyites."

    I know these folks practive mainly in the British Isles, South Africa, New Zealand, and Australia. I have met a few of them.

    Since I know so little about them, and they don't talk about themselves, it is hard to know much about them. But HERE is an article that seems pretty consistent with what little I do know and know from talking to them.
     
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    Another thought is the Motels/Hotels and Restauarants can be dirty, or overly use chemicals when cleaning. If the visitor(s) battle certain medical conditions, they may not feeling comfortable in disclosing yet will avoid dining and lodging at public places. Thanks Tim
     
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    They were tight-lipped about it and we could easily tell that they didn't wish to discuss it any further. They just cited "religious reasons" and said that they were staying with members of a local church here and they'd stay with members out in Portland on their way back.

    Huh?
     
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    Roger may well have identified them in his link. But without that, I would have guessed that they were confessional, conservative Presbyterians rather than cultic.
    There is a renewed emphasis on Sabbath keeping (observed on Sunday) among a number of Reformed groups.
    They don't eat out or do a number of things on Sunday which would require someone else to work, thus causing that person to break the Sabbath. Plus the concept that normal pursuits should be avoided on Sunday. The Westminster Confession, as I recall, addresses this pretty strongly.

    Just like Eric Liddell not running on Sunday in the 1924 Olympics.

    So was it just on Sunday that they were concerned about or anytime during the week?
     
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    It seems to me this thread has turned in to judging those who stay in whatever priced hotel motel, because of the sin of people in other rooms.
    I have to wonder if you've ever considered the sin of the other people in the stores and resturants you go to as well? Maybe you should not be going there.
     
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    but they claimed it was for religious reasons.
     
  20. Marcia

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    Check out the article C4K posted - it might be describing them.

    These are not Presbyterians, either, because they would have told you the reasons they don't want to eat out and not stay in motels.

    The fact they are so "tight-lipped" about it and won't explain is to me a strong sign they are in a cult or cultic group.
     

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