Catholic church STILL PERSECUTES Christians

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  1. Jillian

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    Where She CAN, Rome STILL Burns Bible Belivers
    Quote:Persecution{by RCC}Heating up South of the Border

    By Gary Lane

    CWN News

    August 24, 2007


    CWN.com - Just south of the Yucatan Peninsula, Christians are battling some storms of their own.

    Persecution of evangelicals in the Mexican state of Chiapas has intensified this year.

    At least 17 major incidents have been recorded since January.


    CWN's Gary Lane recently visited San Juan Chamula.

    Festivals like the Day of the Dead are customary celebrations in Chiapas. Many villages throughout this southern Mexican state require residents to pay a fee to cover the cost of the events.

    But many evangelical Christians say the celebrations are nothing more than hedonistic, drunken orgies. They've refused to give of their time and treasure.

    Some have seen their churches destroyed as a result.


    A CBN News crew arrived on the scene of a church near San Juan Chamula just hours after its destruction.

    Dozens of traditionalists - those who blend pagan Mayan rituals with Catholicism - used pick axes to demolish the Prince of Peace Pentecostal Church.

    The destruction of another Pentecostal church in the nearby town of Las Ollas was captured on cell phone video earlier this year.

    Men armed with poles and sticks can be see knocking down the tin roof.

    The attackers threatened to burn the Christians inside the church.

    Church pastor Rosa Hernandez says her life is frequently in danger.

    "I am threatened often," Hernandez said. "The men who did this told me they had bullets and they would kill me with a bullet because I am a leader here."


    Town leaders, known as Casiques, often take steps to keep evangelicals out of their towns and villages.

    Some Christians have been jailed and even killed in Chiapas for sharing their faith with non-believers or for simply venturing into traditionalist Catholic towns.

    One directive from the town of San Antonio Las Rosas, dated February 13, 2005, states that it is not permitted to practice or preach a religion other than Catholicism. Those doing so will be expelled and their property seized without compensation for the benefit of the community.

    Human rights attorney and pastor, Esdras Alonso, has documented hundreds of incidents. He says most have violated religious freedom liberties guaranteed in the Mexican Constitution.

    "Using the argument of lifestyle and customs of the indigenous peoples, they have taken away individual rights," Alonso said. " Lifestyle and customs cannot be above the constitution."

    Despite constitutional guarantees, the Casiques often enforce their own laws.

    Lorenzo Lopez's cowboy hat still hangs on the living room wall of his San Juan Chamula home. The 20-year-old delighted in wearing western garb and singing Christian praise songs.

    Lorenzo received Christ about two years ago at The House of Prayer, a church just down the street from his home.

    He used to enjoy playing ball with his two nephews - but no more.

    An angry mob killed and tortured Lorenzo for his evangelical faith.

    He recently entered their traditionalist village to repay money he had borrowed to pay for his wedding.

    His older brother Juan was with him and escaped the attack. Juan says he cries often because of Lorenzo's tragic death.

    Other evangelicals throughout Chiapas suffer a different kind of loss. Thousands have been forced from their land and expelled from their villages simply for embracing a non-traditional faith.

    Twenty-five-year-old Thomas says he returned to his home in Ocosingo to find part of it in ashes. Neighbors burned it because he was holding regular house-church meetings inside.

    "We went to preach in Chilong," Thomas said. "We came late in the night - about 11:00, and we saw everything destroyed here. They don't want people to come here to hear the Gospel."

    Thomas' wife, children, parents, siblings and brother's family - 15 people total - now share three small bedrooms.

    He remains faithful and he says God has blessed him as a result. The house church still meets here - now outside - every Saturday evening.

    And Thomas now owns an old red Volkswagen Beetle car that he uses to take the Gospel message to mountain villages.

    He's praying to rebuild his home so his church can once again meet indoors when it rains.

    And what if neighbors burn his house down again?

    "They can take my clothes, all my property, but we are in God's hands and they cannot burn Christ and the church from our hearts," Thomas said.




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    DONT BE DECEIVED BY ROMANS IRON FIST ENCLOSED IN THE VELVET GLOVE.

    THE RCC is still what it has always been.
     
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    Our church has a missionary in Equador and they are apparently persecuted by Catholics and the police there don't care about such persecution.

    RCC is gearing up the next stage of Inquisition and Persecution. They are not so lazy as True Christians today. They work very hard.
     
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    I think they are getting their feet wet for what they will be doing during the Great Tribulation....
     
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    I suspect this will place me in the minority, but I am used to that on this board being Lutheran and all. I don't think this is so much the RCC persecuting people. More likely it is the actions of a group of small minded people acting independantly from their church. Much like how a small minded group with supposed protestant leanings acted in the southern U.S.
     
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    and I personally knew a missionary from Boliva at my old fundie Baptist church who told me horror stories herself how the priests and Catholics stood against Christian missions.

    They are gearing up for the next stage, dont miss the thread I started where the Vatican is joining with the WCC and UN to tell people to stop being obessed with converting others..
     
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    But think on this, you wont see any bishop or priest condemning them for it will you?

    Imagine if some Baptists in Latin America ran around burning down people's houses even Catholics, most good churches practicing biblical church discipline would censor them and rebuke them until they repented.
     
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    Me too, and remmeber this time is going to make their inquisitions look like a cakewalk, becuase they will have GLOBAL AUTHORITY with it.

    There is no mystery about why the RCC is working so closely with the UN and other global elites.
     
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    Silence is not proof of absence. Until you can provide verifiable proof that they, the Bishops and Priests, are condoning it, you are merely tossing about a red herring.
     
  10. Jillian

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    You about ready to swim the tiber or something?

    Bible Prophecy is showing itself when I meet Protestants that defend Roman Catholicism.

    Im curious why are you taking up for this sort of thing?

    The people involved definitely are doing this being able to still freely attend Catholic festivals and more.
     
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    Not even close, but I have given thought to swimming the Mississippi. :laugh:
    I will defend anybody who is falsely accused. I do this because they cannot defend themselves on this board. I do this to prevent others from becoming enflamed by hearsay. I do this because I love my neighbor.
     
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    who is falsely accused?

    Go ahead write it here.

    It is interesting while people are losing their homes, livelyhoods and even their lives what side you are taking here, and very disturbing as well.

    as for your defense of their leaders...

    they speak out against evangelicals on a CONSISTENT BASIS!

    For all the duped Protestants who think ROme really wants CHRISTIAN UNITY, they dont realize Catholic leaders are FIGHTING THE SECTS they see as a THREAT down in Latin America.
     
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    There are none so blind as those who WILL (choose) not (to) see!!!!

    Just think! The end is one day closer than yesterday, and from my perspective it could well be in my lifetime - and I'm now 71---!!

    MARANATHA!!!!
     
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    ...not to mention succumbing to Islam slowly. I believe the antichrist will come out of the quasi-RCC / Islam new religion that we will see starting in the very near future, with the pope being the "false prophet".
     
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    We must notice Lutheran today is different from Luther in the fight against RCC, and that the people called pro-Spurgeon are different from Spurgeon as well.

    We must remember this.
    Even the Protestants, especially the presbyterians persecute the evangelical Christians when they preach the Gospel of Being Born Again, because many Presbyterians believe that they are born again by Infant Baptism as Calvin claimed or that they are born again when they decided to join their churches.
    Even among the Baptists, there are many, many fake Christians growing inside and they often defend any Catholic theories or heresies.

    The M&A between RCC and Islam will be the biggest, inorganic growth of the catholic "church" ( though it is not the body of Christ) The merge with Russian Orthodox/Greek Orthodox is not a difficult job at all.
    WCC, Ecumenical works well. For Islam, Fatima is a great pedestal and Kadija, the first wife of Mohammed was a Catholic widow. As time goes on, there will be the chance of great union between 2 pagan groups thru the Oslo agreement. Catholic and Buddhism have no problem with joining together as they are both Idol worshippers and this is happening and they exchange congratulations in South Korea now. The only problem is the True Christian believers who reject the Catholicism. They, RCC and the extended RCC, will persecute the True Christian believers continuously.

    However, we know what will be the end of the persecution and the end of the Romish church, Idol worshippers and who will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.
     
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    In predominantly RC countries where the RC population takes their faith very seriously - we often find persecution of non-Catholics - refusing them jobs and public office is the most common form - with some extremes going to the level of burning churches as the OP points out.

    The REAL question is whether explicit and direct statements by the Pope TO THOSE RC groups would have NO EFFECT AT ALL as you seem to imply.

    Frankly- given the way they mob his visits to their country states it is UNLIKELY that they are ignoring him. These countries represent nation states where he has the MOST influence -- not the LEAST.

    It is no accident that the golden age for the RCC - was the Dark Ages for mankind.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    :sleeping_2: So, some fundamentalists, particularly those who are former Catholics, don't like Catholics and Catholicism. In other news, elderly German gentleman in the Vatican admits to rather liking Catholics and Catholicism, bears in sylvan settings don't use public restrooms, and Luxembourg is far from being the largest country in the world. Film at 11.
     
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    Strange you should say this, I was just talking to my dad about the same thing...
     
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    That is really strange, because I have a good friend (local pastor) that went to Bolivia last yr on a mission trip. Our denomination has missionaries there, and our State convention has undertaken a project of putting solar lights in villages that will help education, churches, and so forth... I have a few friends that go there at least every 2 months to help with missions, and no word about being persecuted by Catholics...

    As a matter of FACT... My friend that went down last yr got to participate in a Catholic service! And he is not a Rome lover.
     
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    Moderator Warning: Per the BB Posting Rules you are not allowed to question a fellow poster's salvation as you did in this now edited post.
     
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