Catholics and the democratic party

Why do Roman Catholics vote for the Pro-Abortion party? I don't know.

Why do conservative Black Christians vote for the Pro-Abortion party? I don't know.

Some things I'll never understand.

 

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Which group do you despise more?

You're right about that.

 

Good points all.

In Christ,

Bob

 

Thanks to Harley for identifying his source for the vote of 9 out of 10 black protestants.

In Christ,

Bob

 

Brother Adam,

Your post was hypothetical!

 

rbrent,

You said, 'Is he the same Hitler who signed a Concordat with the Holy See about 1933?'

Did this agreement mean that Hitler would not invade Italy and especially the Vatican with all of their religious artifacts?

 

A very large number of Catholics aren't practising members of their faith. They visit church on the occasional special occasion (say a wedding) and that's it. One could describe them as 'cultural catholics'.
I suspect that group heavily votes for the Democratic Party, those 'cultural catholics' probably don't much care about the abortion issue and most of them are (lower) middle class and as such come out ahead ever so slightly by voting Democrat.

 

To the country of Netherlands,

How does voting for candidates who believe in 'abortion on demand' {a Democratic plank} put a person out ahead?

The voting public will also stand before Jesus Christ Who still is the Living God and has the power to put people in Hell or Heaven.

We hear tell here in the states that Netherlands is the pornography center of the world? Our nation is very close behind your nation. This is a sad commentary for our country that was begun basically by Christian people and beliefs.

 

The reason that some Catholics vote deomcrat is becaues of the social justice issues. In case you hadn't noticed the CC is very proactive when it comes to these areas....and generally the Democrats tend to be more involved in them as well.

That is a CROCK!!!!


There is NOTHING of social justice in keeping a whole race of people subjugated through welfare and ignorance. The entire Democratic platform is designed to create a continuous class of dependant people by making them helpless. If you look at the whole program of the NEA, it follows the whole program that Marx laid out in the 1900's for creating Communism in America and destroying our way of life. Schools do not educate, they indoctrinate. Rabble rousers stir up the passions of the "underpriviledged" by telling them over and over and over again of how their forefathers were oppressed and therefore, they are owed EVERYTHING!!

Unions, which were begun in a just response to ATROCIOUS working conditions, now terrorize legitimate business owners in the name of "fairness" and "decent wages for all". The stories are legend.

Democrats (and CATHOLICS especially) have bought into the bizzare idea that it is the DUTY of the government to provide cradle to grave security for all of us. But that is neither promised in this life nor attainable. And when we fall into woes and troubles, rather than turn to the government for a handout, we should be able to turn to the Church for a hand up. Something that will be of help to us in getting back on our feet rather than remaining helpless, which is what government subsidies encourage.

Of course, with all the taxes we are subject to, not only daddies, but mommies as well have to work to try to make ends meet. So much is being stolen from us without our consent it is a crime screaming to Heaven.

Then there are the old people. What a whiney class of ingrates if I have ever seen the like!! They think that they are OWED a retirement someting AKIN TO THE PEARLY GATES while those of us still sweating out the workday pay for it for them. Medicare and Medicaid are RIFE WITH FRAUD and yet they keep on pouring more and more money into this fraudulent scheme.

It is the DUTY DUTY!!!! PEOPLE of younger people to care for their older parents if they cannot take care of themselves!! And it is equally the duty of the Church to help younger people with this!!

It is NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY to take care of your parents!!!


It is my Christian duty to help you IF -- IF -- you come to me overwhelmed by the help your parents need. But most old people are like my father and mother. Their house is paid for, they have lots of money in the bank, and they lack for nothing. Yet the government would put a gun to your head and take your hard earned money to pay for their prescriptions. That is just wrong.

And somewhere in this whole mess, we got the idea of so called "rights".

EXCUSE ME?????

Find that idea or concept in the Bible ANYWHERE!!! There is no such word as "rights" in the Bible, but there is PLENTY in there about our DUTY to each other as Christians!!!

But this idea, this false idea, of "rights" has so hypnotized our society that we think now that sodomites have the "right" to marry each other, women have the "right" to murder their unborn babies, the wicked have a "right" to my money to pay for their drug habituation, etc. etc. etc.

And when I object......

I am told that I?? am the "mean homophobic, unchristian bigot"???

Social justice is to HELP MY FELLOW MAN BECOME THE BEST THAT HE CAN BE IN EVERY ASPECT OF HIS LIFE, MAKING SURE THAT HE IS NOT TREATED UNJUSTLY AS HE STRIVES TO MAKE HIS LIFE BETTER

It is not a handout program!!

And there are some priests (such as our Fr. Mike) who absolutely go bonkers in the pulpit against Catholics and Catholic politicians who support abortion. Without naming a party or candidate, he was skinnin' 'em alive two weeks ago in his homily.

And I stood up and yelled AMEN!!!

When Catholics understand a BIBILCAL WORLDVIEW, pro-abortion politicians won't have a PRAYER of ever being elected in this country. That is why Democrats go to such lengths to convince people that there are still issues of social injustice out there and that they are the answer to it all.

Hey --- YOU DEMOCRATS HAVE HAD 40 YEARS AND 6 TRILLION DOLLARS OF OUR MONEY and poverty is still rampant, drug abuse abounds, pornography and moral sewage abound.....and yet you want MORE of my $$$$$.

Yeah....RIIIIIIIIGHT!!!

The day the pope becomes a Protestant is the day I'll vote for a Democrat!!!

Brother Ed --

*breathe deep --- easy big boy -- rant is over now!!*

 

Catholic Convert,

That is the greatest post you have ever written. I wish I could drive you around to each of our state capitols in our nation and you could shout your message from the highest step there.
I totally agree with you.

Another phrase around our area is this. The lazy people around here speak of their "Entitlements!" That makes me wild inside when I hear this slop come out of their mouths!

The only American entitlement any of us have is to look for a job.

You might want to send your post on to each of our Senators and Congressmen {Congress persons}.

When I was about ten years old I started working on a farm for 25 cents per bushel to pick green and yellow beans.

Let these welfare leaches be made to go out and clean up our forests in the west so we have less wild-fires or clean up our streets and countryside so we get something out of our tax dollars.

 

Ed,

I have more respect for you after that post than I ever have before. You are certainly different from most Catholics I have met here on this board. You are not here to defend the indefensible. You seem willing to speak the truth when it is obvious. I appreciate and respect that.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Gentlemen and brothers --

Thank you for your kind comments. I will only add that I not only believe what I have said there, I have practiced what I have preached regarding being my brother's keeper. That is all that is needed to say about this.

If the Christian religion were taken seriously by all of us who profess to be followers of Jesus Christ, there would be far less opportunity for those who wish to rule over us to tyranize us in the name of "justice", for we would be DOING JUSTICE AND MERCY TO EACH OTHER and TO THE STRANGER IN OUR MIDST.

And what a testimony this would be to the love and grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. More than our doctrinal preciseness ( and you know I fervently believe in the application of the truth I believe in!!) our love for each other and for those "outside the Church" would be a shining beacon for the truth of the love of God for mankind.

When our churches have a "deacon's fund" or a "poor box", it gives those in charge ample opportunity to not only oversee the money so that it is distributed to those who are truly in need but it also assures that 100% of the money gets to the need!! Government programs are NOTORIOUSLY WASTEFUL AND CORRUPT. That is just what happens when mankind, corrupted by sin, gets ahold of money and power!!

Oh man....look, I better git off'n this soapbox before I burst. I think you have the point by now. WE are the ones who will change this by caring for our brothers and sisters in the Lord and our family members. And we need to educate others that it is WE who are responsible to each other and not the government. Buy a new car or help my brother.

For a Christian, that should be the easiest answer in the world!!! We are called to not be like the world in its mad frenzy to own, possess, and rule over others.

Well, anyway.....we have a lot of work to do!!

Brother Ed

PS....On the first Sunday in January last year, Fr. Mike gave a homily in which he mentioned how utter WIERD it was to him to go up into the "coal region" (heavily European Catholic immigrants) and see a yard with a statue of the Blessed Mary next to a sign for some political hack who stood for killin' babies!!

And yes, I DID get a bunch of stares when I said AMEN!! out loud, but Fr. Mike told me afterwards that he loved it!!!

 

Most of my extended family are Catholic and Democrats. My family members are working class people - farmers and farm-related jobs. From most discussions I've observed, the Republican Party has the reputation of being the party of big business, the oil companies, the drug companies, and the wealthy, etc. President Bush's new Medicare bill has reaffirmed that even more. I know that most of my Catholic family members will be voting for the Democratic presidential candidate in November.

When it comes to the abortion issue, President Reagan, President Bush I and President Bush II have been in office for a combined total of almost 16 years, and abortion is still legal.

In spite of the "talk", Republicans who claim to be pro-life don't seem to do much about it.

 

Rbent,

Any guesses on which denominatoin had lots of KKK members? Give you too hints. It wasn't the Catholics or the Jews whom the KKK wanted to exterminate. Oh, 1 More I guess. It started with a B and ended with a T. I have read that when the KKK was going good 20% of this religion belong to it and the rest were rather sympathetic evidently.

blessings

 

Micah 6:8

 

Priscilla Ann --

The Republicans are far from being saints themselves. I have rather heated discussions with my son over politics, and I keep telling him that I am voting for the lesser of two evils.

Yes, you are right, there is very curious evidence which constantly points to the fact that the Republicans seem to favor big business over the concerns of humanity. For instance, some of the decisions which they make concerning the environment and how big businesses treat it.

However, your relatives should weigh the moral indecency of the Democratic platform (gay "rights", sodomite marriages, women's rights [to the detriment of women], abortion advocacy, euthanasia, etc.) and realize that compared to the Republicans, they are morally bankrupt and stand against everything the Bible teaches. Despite their glaring errors in favor of big business, you simply cannot make the same statement about the Republican platform.

If the Republicans ever wise up and stop coddling big business and the filthy rich, they will cut the legs right out from under the Democrats and the ball game will be OVER!!

Cordially in Christ,

Brother Ed