Cedarville University

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  1. webdog

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    It seems like locally many pastors go to Cedarville. Is Cedarville a good school, and has anybody attended there?

    http://www.cedarville.edu/
     
  2. Salty

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    Ceaderville use to be approved by the GARBC (Gen Assoc of Reg Bap) until the GARBC decided not to have official approval anymore.

    Also some thought they were getting liberal, because the college allowed - now get this - CCM!

    Currently Ceaderville is affilated with Southern Baptists

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    The assistant pastor at our church is a graduate of Cedarville and my wife is a graduate as well. Seems like a pretty good school to me!
     
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    Cedarville used to be a great school. It is currently going through a "bad" time. You might want to check out http://www.cedarvillesituation.com/ (start reading with article #1)

    Several profs have either been fired or pushed out. the president is "cleaning house" - but not for the better. A lot of innocent people have been hurt.

    This has starting making the news. I know the Baptist Press has reported on it - and a newsletter for Christian Colleges has also reported on it. Among many others. Check out the links on the above linked site to read some of the articles about the mess.

    The alumni giving has also gone way way down since this mess started.

    I did not go to cedarville but I have close friends who went there before the mess started.

    It is no longer the school it once was.
     
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    In response

    I think it's important that we not get caught up in some of the slander going on right now against CU. Since someone already posted the Cedarville Situation website, allow me to post a few links as well that may give you insight into the situation at CU:

    Cedarville has gone out of its' way to communicate a clear commitment to truth and the inerrancy of Scripture. Check out their truth and certainty statement:

    http://www.cedarville.edu/cf/truthandcertainty/

    Not only do faculty have to sign a doctrinal statement (which is quite narrow, in fact, more narrow than many evangelical churches!), but they must also sign a truth and certainty statement. What other university does that?

    Second, it's important to note that the professors that were let go were not let go for theological reasons, but for violations of their contracts. This is spelled out in detail on CU's website:

    http://www.cedarville.edu/academics/avp/truth/personnelfaq.cfm

    For an outsider's view, check out this blog:

    www.cedarvilleliver.blogspot.com

    You'll notice the blog I've listed points out several fallacies in the cedarville situation site. It's quite obvious to me that many are committed to tearing down a great school and will stop at nothing to accomplish their task.

    As an alum of CU, I am proud of my alma mater and I am thrilled to have graduated from a school that is unwavering in their commitment to truth and to their mission of a holistic, Christ-centered, excellent education.
     
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    DCBuckeye, do you know the reason the Cedars newspaper is no longer available online?
     
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    Cedarville is NOT affiliated with the Southern Baptists. They are not a southern baptist denominational school nor do they receive any funds from the SBC. Southern Baptists have begun to see CU is a great school and the doctrinal statement is in line with the SBC so they've recommended their students attend CU, but other than that, there is no formal agreement.

    If it was an SBC school, then SBC students would get a discount or a scholarship to attend CU. That is not the case. That is a common misperception, so I thought I would address it.

    God Bless.
     
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    dcbuckeye,

    interesting that you failed to mention that the Grievence Committee voted on the side of an ousted prof. Why would they vote to reinstate someone who had violated their contract? Easy - they wouldn't. They found the accusations to be "unfounded."

    Of course the pres got his trustees to vote against the Grievence Committee's decision. But the fact still stands that the committee who investigated the matter saw through the farce and recognized that the prof should not have been fired.


    Let me just state clearly right now - I am not trying to start an argument with you. I am not even trying to prove that I'm right and you're wrong.

    I posted about the "issue" surronding cedarville because someone asked about Cedarville. If someone is looking into Cedarville they need to see all aspects. Which means they need to know about the current controversy.

    If anyone is looking into Cedarville - look into it. But don't look blindly. I would ask the same for any school. Know what is going on. If you look into the "issue" - on BOTH sides - and decide that you like Cedarville - by all means go there.
    Just don't make any choice with blinders on.

    Choices made without knowing all the facts are more likely to lead to regret.
     
  9. TomVols

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    Technically, there are only six SBC schools, and those are the six SB seminaries. Colleges that are deemed "southern baptist" are usually supported financially in some way by a state baptist convention. To my knowledge, Cedarville is not supported by the State Convention of Baptists in Ohio.
     
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  10. Salty

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    I found a link to explain what I meant, but unable to "link it"

    Here is the story from Baptist Press


    Ohio Baptists now partnering with Cedarville University


    Posted on Jan 3, 2003 | by Staff COLUMBUS, Ohio (BP)--Cedarville University, a Baptist university of arts and sciences, has entered a partnership with the State Convention of Baptists in Ohio.

    The partnership was formalized in November during the 49th annual session of the state convention when messengers overwhelmingly approved the agreement and committed to recommend Cedarville to all "Southern Baptists as an accredited, quality, four-year university that embraces Southern Baptists."

    Cedarville, located in southwestern Ohio, is one of the top feeder schools for Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky., and has been described by Paige Patterson, president of Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wake Forest, N.C., as one of the finest Christian liberal arts universities in the country.

    "We're thrilled with the alliance with Cedarville," said Jack Kwok, executive director of the Ohio convention. "Cedarville is a quality Baptist school. They wholeheartedly embrace Southern Baptists. A significant number of our pastors are Cedarville graduates. We're looking to them as a resource for future church leaders. They embrace our theology, our polity and our missiology. We would recommend Cedarville not only to Ohio Baptists but all Southern Baptists."

    Cedarville President Paul Dixon likewise voiced excitement for "growing a relationship with Southern Baptists."

    "We have many Southern Baptist young people in our student body and some of our key trustees are Southern Baptist pastors or laymen," Dixon said. "Our alumni attend and pastor Southern Baptist churches. A number of our administrators, faculty and staff attend Southern Baptist churches in our part of Ohio."

    Jack Graham, president of the Southern Baptist Convention and pastor of the Dallas-area Prestonwood Baptist Church, affirmed the partnership during the annual meeting of Ohio Baptists, Dixon said.

    "He commended the churches for their decision regarding Cedarville and he indicated that this was representative of the convention emphasis on Empowering Kingdom Growth," Dixon said.

    Cedarville University was founded in 1887 "for the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ." Located in Cedarville, near Dayton, the university has approximately 3,000 students in more than 100 areas of study. Its largest departments are business administration, education, science and mathematics, engineering, Bible and nursing.
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    But there are no SBCO elected trustees, nor SBCO monies going to Cedarville.
     
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    Webdog, I don't know that much about the controversies surrounding Cedarville (I've tried reading about some of it, but frankly it is quite esoteric, tedious and boring, if you ask me), but I do know that academically, Cedarville is top notch. In fact, I would be pleased for my children to go there (we are about 45 minutes away), if that's where God leads.

    As for the controversies, I see no evidence that CU is becoming a flaming liberal school by any means. It may not be as staunchly conservative by certain measures, but that is all a matter of perspective. To some people, Bob Jones U. isn't even conservative enough, so we can get the picture that a university can't cater to everyone. I also read that some of the controversies had to do with dispensational vs. progressive dispy stuff - i.e., the school was becoming less traditional dispy and more progressive dispy. Again, that may be a huge issue to some, but we all know that progressive dispies (and covenantal guys too) still hold to the inerrancy of Scripture. One's eschatology/view of the covenants does not make one liberal. Anyways, I've rambled, but those are my thoughts.
     
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    Some are not happy that Cedarville isn't KJVO, has embraced CCM, etc. Those folks aren't happy about a lot of things, though.
     

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