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What are those?

 

Good post. It is because of these three reasons that I no longer listen to his sermons.

 

If I remember correctly, annihilation, soul sleep, loss of salvation, and in general a number of errors from an eschatological perspective.

It's been a while since I looked at those threads.

Any of these make the doctrine in view seem mild in comparison, because it does not deny certain truths which form the foundation of a proper soteriological view. Of course, that is just my own opinion, but, there are certain doctrines which I think we should view as being of higher priority to address than others.


God bless.

 

Millennial Exclusion believes in two salvation's. I would say that is pretty heavy.

 

I didn't see that in the doctrine, simply an erroneous purgatorial element which is, of course, not Biblical. "Sinning Christians in Hades during the Kingdom." Shame it's not allowed to be discussed...



All false doctrine should be fair game.

But if that is the case then I agree completely, that is heavy.


God bless.

 

Christians have to earn a secondary salvation, through good works, in order to make into the Millennium.

 

So since they use TWOTM any other errors are fine.

That is so wrong on so many levels.

 

Nope, you can go look for it yourself, go look into the archives on this board, or contact his ministry yourself. I will tell you that a key word to look for in the book is outer darkness. Any time he is talking about that he is talking about Christians being excluded from the Millennium.

 

Also, Stanley quotes Zane Hodges is I remember correctly in that book. Hodges is a primary pusher of that doctrine. Also I think the use of the word overcomer is significant among Millennial Exclusionists as it indicates those Christians who have served God well and will go into the Millennium.

 

I used to run in those Millennial Exclusion circles, so to speak. Grace Evangelical Society most prominently.

And I can tell you that ME has many faces. Along the lines of Walvoord's idea that there will be numerous resurrections, there was one brand with the overcomer being included in the Millenium and Marriage Banquet, and the lackluster believer not being resurrected until afterward.
It was Millennial Exclusion, and that was it.

Sometime after I abandoned that camp over Hodges' "Crossless Gospel" heresy, the M.E. position morphed into this heinous punishment type of exclusion.

If I'm not mistaken, many prominent Dallas grads from the 60s-80s still hold to the previous sort - Tony Evans, Stanley, Swindoll, Lutzer, et al.

I'm not sure about David Jeremiah

One previous pastor of mine has a doctorate from DTS, was there with Swindoll, Joseph Dillow, and a few others. And he would probably have the same view.


In short, Millennial Exclusion began as a teaching of what unfaithful Christians will NOT experience, with no real teaching as to what they WILL experience.


Of course, I'm open to correction about any of the above stated info. It's been almost 15 years since I ran in those circles

 

Way of the Master ought not trump Scripture as a litmus test.

 

Yes because following Comfort and TWOTM is how we should judge all churches. Just ignore all unbliblical teaching and practice as long as they have a Comfort book in their library.

 

The earliest form of Millennial Exclusion would not be a heresy, imho. It simply teaches greater rewards for those who endure to the end, or "overcome" (see Revelation 3:5). Those who don't would simply miss out on some great blessings when Christ returns. Simply, exclusion from the Millennial reign of Christ. You'll find this in many earlier Dispensational teachings. And it wasn't called Millennial Exclusion.

But the more recent brand, which includes punishment for those who are unfaithful, etc, runs very close to a Purgatory teaching, as someone else stated previously.