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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Magnetic Poles, Sep 21, 2009.
Interesting story....CLICK HERE
From the Colorado Springs Gazette
Let me help you actually understand the literal interpretation of scripture so you do not continue looking foolish.
You are once again quick on the draw to attack. This is an interesting article, but it is not one that I wrote. I posted a link without comment, yet you immediately jump into attack mode. Time for your chill pill.
Besides, disagreeing with you does not equate to being foolish.
Well I will tell you what. If you have never on this board made comments in opposition to the literal interpretation based on a false wooden literal interpretation of every single passage of scripture I will realize I was wrong and apologize for jumping to the draw.
I will tell you what...why don't you give comments about the linked article rather than trying to provoke yet another flame war?
The author has no idea what the literal method of interpretation is as is the case with many on this board. The article I linked to refutes your op.
Barna's pulling the typical 'bash-the-bible' stunt that our POTUS has done numerous times. I'm really not sure why this article should draw our attention as it's old news.
The whole story was written in a mocking manner, especially when you look at how many times he uses the term 'cherry-picking'. It's to be expected, though still just as sad as BHO's use of it in his address to the nation.
Anyone who says that those proclaiming homos*xuality is sin are "cherry picking" have no spiritual discernment and have never been taught the meaning of scripture through the power of the Holy Spirit.
Now the thing that surprised me is that this article appeared in the Gazette. Why? Well, Colo Spgs is like the capital of evangelical organizations...dozens of them, including many parachurch ministries. The paper itself is locally referred to as "The Godzette", since it has a definite fundamentalist bent to its editorials.
I am no fundamentalist, and I agree that everyone picks and chooses to some degree. But I was surprised about where this appeared.
The guy who wrote the article doesn't understand anything about context!
It's really quite a juvenile article that anyone who knows the Bible can see through.
So why attend a Baptist Church or apart of Baptist denomination or fourm? Baptist are ALL ABOUT being Fundamental.:jesus:
There are tons of liberal Baptist churches - tons! In fact, if you want to see some, just come to this area where most of the Baptist churches are very liberal (but not my church).
There are those who:
Emphasis Paul's teachings and ignore Jesus' teachings.
Emphasis retribution and ignore love and peace.
Emphasis law and ignore grace.
Emphasis salvation but ignore discipleship.
The BGCT in Texas as well
OK - the article states:
But who was this command given to? The Israelites. THAT is a literal reading of the Scriptures. That's not "cherry picking".
Then it says:
Once again, we're speaking about commandments given to the Israelites. However, in the New Testament, we are again told that homosexuality is a sin. We're not cherry picking.
But then again, 1 Corinthians 2:14 explains why they come to this conclusion: "The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned."
I am a fundamentalist with a liberal application. Cherry picking? I follow basic hemeneutics, and cherry pick where the context requires it. Critics tend to cherry pick where it pleases them.
The intent of that article is to discredit Christians who rightly believe that homosexuality is sin. It's as simple as that.
Unfortunately, man thinks he is the potter and God's words are the clay that he can mold into whatever he wants them to say. In that case, most churches should throw away the bible and make up their own gospels since they think they can make God's words say the opposite of what they say.
But the "interpretation" excuse is how men will fall away from sound doctrine so every church can claim to believe the bible as long as they contend that man is the potter and God's word is the clay. But this doesn't fool those who believe every word in the bible as written and it certainly doesn't fool God. :thumbs:
THe author wrote, "Can anyone say cherry-picking?"
Can anyone say, "The natural man does not understand the things of God."
I think I read you once before, in another thread, as having said that most or many of the Baptist churches in the Washington, DC, area are liberal. I have been here 38 years, have been a member of three of the area Baptist churches, have been interim pastor of six of them and pastor of one, and have been involved with the D. C. Baptist Convention as a staff member or as the pastor of a member church. I don't see liberalism.
Then there is the fact that there are more than 500 Baptist churches in the metro area. I have been in and preached in quite a few of them, particularly African-American churches. I don't see liberalism.
"Liberalism" is a term that means a low Christology and a weak anthropology (i.e., discounting the reality of sin). I don't see it. I hear and preach salvation by grace through faith.
But then I have not been to most of these 500 churches. So I cannot back up my assertion statistically.