IMO: I don't think this forum is a reflection the Christian community's world views. Posters to this group, or many of the most vocal, reflect the "world" view with a non Christian outlook. That's just the way I see it, and it's frustrating. I came here with great expectations, only to be slowly but steadily disillusioned at the vehemence with which many folks invoking the name of Jesus, so greedily delight in unwholesome attacks on our President at war, and this nation in general. And they willingly join themselves to ideas and designs that are geared to tear America apart. We are facing a religious war with far reaching consequences, beyond anything before, for our very existence, yet we won't support a capable candidate who will defend us because he has been married more than once, or won't take a stand against abortion, or one of many other issues. Instead they choose to draw as many votes as possible into a completely impotent third party, in effect ceding the election to the Democrats, who's party has been captured by radical socialists. They will lead us toward total bondage, such as Europe is approaching. America has many faults, but it is still the greatest nation the world has ever seen, in every conceivable measure. But the Body of Christ is loosing its battle at being the restrainer of evil, and evil is rising. The "Christian Debates Forum" should be renamed. my 2 cents.