Christian Profanity

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Can Christians cuss?

  1. Absolutely Not!

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  2. Sometimes

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  3. Only some words at any time

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  4. Only some words at certain times

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  5. Yes!

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  1. Greektim

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    Is it ever ok for Christians to cuss???

    I find it appropriate in certain situations to use words (deemed by society mind you not the Bible) that express my truest feelings and intensity.

    I think Paul did this as well in Phil 3:8 although I opened a thread to discuss that word in particular. Either way, if society is the arbiter of what is "bad language", then can we really say that something is wrong if the Bible is our standard for faith and practice?
     
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    depends on what you mean as cussing?
    foul language is what you meaning ?
    it doesn't matter the words that are used(of course some are more foul and unpleasant to the ear)but it all comes from the heart with the attitude of frustration and anger.and of course we all get frustrated and angry at certain times--we just need to constrain ourselves and think about what we say or do in that time :praying::praying::praying:
     
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    Think taht we cannot ever use the "7 deadly words" to express ourselves, but can do clever play on worfds as Paul did regarding Judaizers and circumcision!
     
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    Can Christians use profane language? You bet. I've even heard it from the pulpit. Using first letters, descriptors, and "lesser" versions of profanity seem to be the way Our Lord's people practice the art whilst maintaing deniability. Should the type of language be used by His people? Absolutely not. Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. People easily see through the act, making a poor impression.

    Side note- For those who are multilingual: Ever notice that the easiest words to remember are the vulgar ones?
     
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    Let me illustrate b/c I am not thinking of language necessarily spoken out of anger. In a conversation with someone, I "called their crap" so to speak, but the best way to emphasize how cowardice it felt was to call it "chicken s**t". It was not said in rage, but it clearly communicated the feelings I wanted to express in the least amount of words. The point was received as intended, and it was effective.
     
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    There's an old sailor (78-80 years) in my Saturday morning mens bible study.
    He was saved just a few years back and does his best but his vocabulary is a bit more salty than most - and we understand him jus fine.

    The problem is that I see some of the less established Christian men in the group begining to take the same liberties in their speech that he does and I find it inappropriate.

    IMO you have to earn the right to cuss - for most of us it's not the right thing to do.

    Rob
     
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    ok I see what you are saying now.

    well theres no difference in the S word than there is in saying dung(Paul used the word dung)but it would be better to use dung for the reason of offending some and it is a better word in trying to get your point across

    :wavey::wavey::wavey:
     
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    I agree Paul thought of skubalon the same way we think of s**t. But offending someone is not my concern. In certain contexts and occasions, it is appropriate. And dung is hardly better than...
     
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    James said;
    Jas_3:8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

    James certainly knew what he was talking about.
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    Back when I was a hippie, I used filthy language regularly, just like I drank alcholic drinks and smoked weed and took harder dope.

    It all came to a stop, forever, the day I recieved Christ and was born of the spirit.
    Filthy laguage, in my view, even the mild ones, is exceedinngly inapropiate coming from the mouth of a child of God.

    And no, I DO NOT attend a "fundamentalist" church. :wavey:
     
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    Are you claiming that all your sinning ended when you were saved?
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    Get ready for a lot of extra-biblical tradition to be tossed at you.

    There are those who think it is a sin to use the s word in place of "poo-poo".

    And if you ask them why, they cannot defend their position exegetically so they will cite nothing but tradition.

    Of course, because our religious culture is so tradition based, it is not wise to say a cuss word in the hearing of the culture. It is a weaker brother principle.

    But for two Christians who have liberty who are alone discussing something? Certainly. There is no verse that says you should say "poo-poo" over the "s" word.
     
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    MB...


    Good grief! (((OF COURSE ))) not!

    I was only refering to those that I listed. Including filthy language.
     
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    I am told that the Greek word Paul employs in that text was the vulgar way to express that concept in the Greek language.

    I think the best thing for many Christian circles is for them to lighten up.

    If you do not have bible to condemn something, precept or PRINCIPLE, then you have no right to condemn it.

    I am not saying you do. This is addressed to everybody, not just you.
     
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    So its under Chrsitian liberty to ley my kids use 'F bombs" all the time then?
     
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    All of the time?

    Who said that?

    I said the opposite even as it pertains to adults.

    EVEN ADULTS should not go around saying cuss words willy nilly. There are too many weaker brethren out there and there is a culture that has been led by extrabiblical traditions of Christians to think that saying cuss words is a sin.

    I thought I was clear enough on that. How did what I said lead you to question whether or not I thought it would be ok for you to let your children say the f word all of the time??

    I'll tell you what I tell my children. ""You are a child. You don't get to do all of the things that adults get to do because you are a child. This is because as a child you do not have the maturity necessary to discern when and how to do many things. So until you become mature you are not to do them at all. Things like driving a car. You don't get to do that yet because you are a child. Things like drinking alcohol. You don't get to do that yet because you are a child. Things like saying cuss words. You don't get to do that yet because you are a child who does not fully understand context and how saying certain things in many contexts is inappropriate."

    The last thing I do is say this nonsense that is so popular among many Christians- "If it is not okay for children to do it then it is not okay for their parents to do it either."

    That's just dumb.
     
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    In the Navy, the words were used so often the stigma of using them disappeared to the point they became regular adjectives without a thought. It is the standard within me from the Holy Spirit now that none of it is acceptable, thought, deed or lesser expression. As much as the words, it is the disrespect towards another believer. One could even look at it as wounding another saved persons soul.

    If a word slips out in anger, I know immediately it was wrong. Saved and unsaved alike, it is a sign of ignorance and inept language skills of the English language.

    Also, use of demeaning words is just as bad. If one regularly uses phrase like heretic, apostate, and false doctrine believer you might as well have called them a worthless piece of %$*@#.
     
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    A word is a word. If two people who understand that are talking there is no problem with them saying something like, "I'll tell you what Paul was telling the Philippians. He was saying that all of this extrabiblical tradition business that was once so precious to him, he now counted as nothing but a steaming pile of @#$&."

    That would be both accurate and appropriate and not at all sinful.

    Now I would not say that in front of a Christian who is not mature enough to know that this is okay.

    I would treat him as a weaker brother.

    Why is it wrong?


    Across the board? In all cases?
     
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    Here are a few verses that come to mind.

    Ephesians 4:29
    Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.

    Colossians 3:8
    But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth.

    James 5:12
    But above all, my brothers, do not swear, either by heaven or by earth or by any other oath, but let your “yes” be yes and your “no” be no, so that you may not fall under condemnation.

    Proverbs 13:3
    Whoever guards his mouth preserves his life; he who opens wide his lips comes to ruin.

    James 3:10
    From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so.

    Exodus 20:7
    “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.


    Matthew 5:33-37
    “Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform to the Lord what you have sworn.’ But I say to you, Do not take an oath at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God, or by the earth, for it is his footstool, or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. And do not take an oath by your head, for you cannot make one hair white or black. Let what you say be simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything more than this comes from evil.

    2 Timothy 2:16
    But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness,

    Matthew 5:37
    Let what you say be simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything more than this comes from evil.

    Galatians 5:19-21
    Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

    Hebrews 4:12
    For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

    Acts 16:1-40
    Paul came also to Derbe and to Lystra. A disciple was there, named Timothy, the son of a Jewish woman who was a believer, but his father was a Greek. He was well spoken of by the brothers at Lystra and Iconium. Paul wanted Timothy to accompany him, and he took him and circumcised him because of the Jews who were in those places, for they all knew that his father was a Greek. As they went on their way through the cities, they delivered to them for observance the decisions that had been reached by the apostles and elders who were in Jerusalem. So the churches were strengthened in the faith, and they increased in numbers daily. ...

    1 Peter 3:10
    For “Whoever desires to love life and see good days, let him keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit;

    Romans 12:14
    Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them.

    James 3:9-10
    With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse people who are made in the likeness of God. From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so.

    Psalm 10:7
    His mouth is filled with cursing and deceit and oppression; under his tongue are mischief and iniquity.

    James 1:26 ESV
    If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.

    In reality, one does not need verses. With the Holy Spirit as a guide, the answer should be clear and immediate.

    Yes, in all cases it shows a lack of English skills to use curse words. Look at the spelling and quality of grammer in some posts we get.
     
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    So, you think these verses are addressing "cuss words" like the d word or the h word or the s word??

    Do you think you sanctify the term feces when you call it poo-poo instead of the s word?
     

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