Christian vs Muslim

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  1. IAMWEAK_2007

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    IMO a raving maniac. He was trying to use the Book of John to prove Jesus is not God. He failed to mention John 1:1-14. He kept citing versed where Jesus says I cannot do nothing without my Father, implying that Jesus is some sort of puppet or has no power except from the Father. In truth, we all know that the will, purpose, and power of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are in complete harmony, and One will never disagree with the Other. He uses verses to give Jesus the status of a prophet similar to their own Mohammad, or some of the nut case ideas of Jesus by the Mormons.

    He is nothing but a tool of evil and a false teacher. Jesus was quite clear about His power when questioned by Pilate. Jesus was not forced to the cross. He gave His life for our sins freely. God the Father did not force Him.

    What can I say on this video? It was a waste of time and effort to film it.
     
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    Sadly...the christian was not prepared to refute this false teacher who denies Jesus is God. They falsely believe the demonically influenced Mohammed was to come to reveal truth...rather than God the Holy Spirit.
    Unless they repent and commit what they call the sin of ...shirk..they have to deny surah 112.....and come to trust in Jesus as Lord...they will continue on to hell with satan and all the reprobates who have come before them.
     
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    Another thing this false prophet failed to mention showing that all three parts of the Triune are in harmony is that Scripture tells us the Holy Spirit prays for us when we do not know what to say, because He is God, and knows exactly what we need.

    I have been paying closer attention to your posts, and must say, you are a very intelligent, well versed man on Scripture. Even when I disagree with you on a particular issue, (you know when I am right and you are wrong LOL), I can see where you got your position from, and it is well thought out. It is much more productive to have a civil discussion than crossing swords that I have been guilty of in the past.
     
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    SN,

    I am thankful that God did not cut me off in my sins...but had mercy on me.
    I was completely biblically illiterate and just try and be faithful to the revealed truths as they have been understood by the mainstream church,early on, then through the reformers and puritans.
    Even some of the anabaptists whose theology I have several problems with...I have to own as brothers because I believe they had been granted a saving faith in Jesus.
    I am not that smart, but realizing that, I have and continue to seek out those who have sought the truth of God intently.Because I make frequent use of the puritans many will deride me for this and despise the good quotes from these men, to their own peril.
    While driving a truck has some challenges and is not highly esteemed, it does have some distinct advantages. I literally listen to dozens and dozens of sermons each week. I have time to meditate on God's word, and reading the teaching of many godly men.{they were not sinless, or perfectly inspired} and yet God has used so many persons to help His church over time.
    There are several of these men living that i have great respect for,and receive much correction from...week by week.

    While a message board can lead to low level disagreements,and carnal disputing...it can also be a great blessing and help many persons.
    Several people avoid the conflict and some of the poor interaction that goes on...I know many Pastors who cannot justify spending too much time sorting through the tares among the wheat. I understand why sometimes.
    Yet...even when some post error....the error can be instructive also.

    When we are speaking with unchurched people, they will offer the same error as some who post on here, so the correction and verses needed to help are not far removed from our minds if we are constantly thinking upon these things.

    everyone who posts here should examine their heart motives and not forget that ;
    15 A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.

    2 The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness.

    3 The eyes of the Lord are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.

    4 A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.
     
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    First thing is, I was always amazed at the ability to drive and operate a truck, especially the difficult maneuvers like backing up into a narrow dock. One of my eyes is barely able to see the big E on the eye chart, so my depth perception is not good. You would get quite a laugh out of seeing me try to parallel park just a regular automobile.

    No, I have never been to a seminary, and all of my knowledge of Scripture and the Gospel has been through reading and Bible studies, sermons, etc. I never felt a call of a Christian vocation. I spent most of my years being an electronics tech for various government agencies. Now retired, I work in an adult day care, teaching basic life skills, and helping these folks adapt to the surrounding community. The highest I ever got in formal education was a couple of Associate Degrees.

    I strive to understand Scripture daily to help fulfill the positions I have in the local church I serve in. One can never stop learning.
     
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    Your statement that the
    is particularly pertinent and important. I am afraid that some people do not understand that truth and it can create problems for them!
     

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