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Well, I didnt really take it that I had to do all of the things the OP suggested or I was not being a Godly woman or causing him to sin.

I was also thinking about the fact that it is quite interesting that Jesus was saying what he said back when women were covered from head to toe, and that it was addressed to the men. Lust is obviously a very serious problem for men, and I think women ought to be doing their parts to make sure they arent making it more difficult on them. Its not my fault if they sin if I am doing my part to make sure that I am modestly dressed and not acting in an unseemly fashion, but I still think that I do take some responsibility if I decide that I feel like modesty isnt important, or that the worlds standards for modesty are just fine, which is essentially what has happened. Personally, I look for guidelines in things, and not rules, though rules CAN be helpful as long as we arent ruled by them. As a "rule", I dont wear skirts that go above my knees.

I also dont think that the OP was talking to the ladies who already do check themselves. There are ladies however who need some help in this area. My church doesnt seem to be a problem very much, but I have been to churches where the amount of skin was disturbing, and somebody needs to say something.

I very much agree that it is the duty of the older ladies to teach the younger ones this. However, this is baptistboard, not church, and we talk about many different topics here. Why not this?

 

This is not scriptural

 

I also think men ought to dress modestly of course, but they just dont seem to have the problem that women seem to.

 

Women are always telling me they want to see less of me. I have the feeling it doesn't have anything to do with lust or temptation, though.

 

If the OP wasn't addressing those of us who do dress modestly, than he's just preaching to the choir and the post was written to cause argument, not edification.

Yes, some churches have young believers who are unaware that their dress could cause lust. In those cases, it is up to us ladies older in the faith to model modest dress and take those gals under our wing and mentor them. It is NOT up to other men to graphically list a bunch of do's and don'ts. There is such a thing as discreetly teaching without being offensive.

Why not talk about modesty on the BB? Because inevitably, our definitions of modesty will be different.

 

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I think it means women have more body parts which need covering

 

It's like this: If I found out someone (another man) was tempted by a specific atricle of clothing I wore, I'd be very careful not to cause a stumbling block for my brother in Christ.

On the other hand, if another man tries to shove a bunch of personal legalistic rules down my throat, my claws are going to come out every time.

Sorry Joe, but it's impossible for me to dress according to EVERYONE else's "standards." That's why I am glad I only have to answer to my own husband. What is not scriptural about that attitude? Please explain your comment.

 

Actually, I meant that men have fewer clothing choices that are revealing.

abc, how do you know that there arent women on here who may have not realized that problem until they read it on here? I dont think he was preaching to the choir. I think he was coming up with a topic to talk about...and I see it as a really big problem nowadays.


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You are offended that he wrote a list. Its funny, because as a woman concerned with modesty, I didnt really see a list of dos and donts the way that you did. I see helpful suggestions.. guidelines.. things we may have not thought about.

Its okay to not agree with everything on the list, and I dont think that the OP would say any different, but what I do not get is why any post that lists good ideas is automatically shot down as legalistic. It would be legalistic to apply these guidelines without the right heart, sure.

Maybe the OP is just a guy like many guys who happens to struggle in this area and thought maybe here would be a safe place to list those things that would be helpful to him.

My own extremely faithful husband tells me that sometimes it can be a real struggle when flesh is flashing around everywhere, on every billboard and every advertisement flier, and one place men shouldnt be having to struggle is in church. Modesty, along with some guidelines is a very appropriate topic.



Yes older ladies!!! Tell the younger ones!! That would be great. Its my own experience in churches though, that our communication has been so broken down and everything (Sunday school and church) has been so age segregated that this just doesnt happen anymore. It should! But it just doesnt much.

I see nothing wrong with the topic at all.

 

What? From what I know, I didn't say that, nor do I mean that.
I like you

 

Hey Joe,
Do you wear bicycle shorts when you cycle?

 

Yes, I wear them every time

 

Hey Joe,
Do you wear bicycle shorts when you cycle?

 

Yes, I wear them when riding ( give me a sec to answer :thumbs: )

 

I have re-read the original post and find myself agreeing with you....not that you need my approval:smilewinkgrin:

peace to youraying:

 

Have you considered such a fashion accentuates your body and you might be causing a weaker brother with an ongoing struggle in the area of homosexuality to stumble? Hmmmmmmmmm? Time to put on baggy pants, possibly male culottes.:applause: