Church Splits

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  1. Walls

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    Does anyone have a clue what causes a church split? I know there could be many reasons, but is there normally a common denomitar behind them?
     
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    common denominator..."People" [​IMG]
     
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    P-R-I-D-E
     
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    Not all splits are bad. I have heard of Churches splitting because of their size and wanting to expand their ministry capabilities. Theres a church in Louisville that has two buildings one on each side of town. They advertise one church two locations.
    A church split does not always have to mean the people have become enemies and want to get away from each other.
     
  5. Walls

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    Yes, people are always at the cause of something. My husband says it is Satan!
     
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    James 4:1-2 "What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don't they come from your desires that battle within you? You want something but don't get it."

    IF (great if, since we've been part of intentional splits, too) it is from fighting/quarrels, then it is from "lust, pleasure, desires" = all the same Greek word which is HEDONISM.
     
  7. Walls

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    Oops! :eek: Bad spelling Denominator!!! :D
     
  8. Walls

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    Pr 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

    Ps 59:12 For the sin of their mouth and the words of their lips let them even be taken in their pride: and for cursing and lying which they speak.

    Pr 11:2 When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom.

    Pr 13:10 Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom.

    The Bible has a lot to say about pride. I wonder whose pride brings about the split: a member, deacon, elder, founder, congregation, pastor or all of the above?
     
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    My-way-or-the-highway syndrome. Butting heads. Egos. (all of this equals the flesh!) See. Dr. Bob above.
     
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    If there are two sides, one thing is for sure, at least one of the sides is wrong, maybe both. A church should split if splitting gets rid of the side that is wrong.
     
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    All of the above posts are good. Basically, it is people not in control of their sinful natures, and there is nothing good in that nature.
     
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    Some splits are intentional to start another church in an area. In fact this is being done a lot within some churches. It seems to be very good.

    Others are over selfishness.
     
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    I would guess that this means like so many other posts in the past about "Dictator" preachers who relish in being what many church members consider control freaks.
    What about the "Be our little lapdog syndrome". We pay you, take care of you, called you here and can send you away control freaks. I have seen this two times in the past. One thought because he wanted to present the pastor with his tithes personally and not put them in the offering like everyone else it would gather special "grace" for him when he needed it. The other because the work was started in and around them and they were somewhat the originators then the pastor should sit up and take notice when the "wife" had something to say. Sorry......didn't work for me. I preached to the last crowd on the subject of "unclean fowl" ....buzzards! It was splittin' time again.
    Thanks -----Bart
     
  14. Walls

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    My Way or the Highway! Shouldn't that be God's motto and not man's! Of course God gives us a choice. Pr 8:32 Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.

    I have seen pastors who use this from the pulpit, to founding members who want the church ran their way. Isn't it all about pride?
     
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    Apparently, it isn't splitting that is wrong it is the WHY of the split that makes it right or wrong.
     
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    SPLIT v (6) to become divided through disagreement...separation into factions;schism: a split in a church.

    When a church starts a new work, that is a mission plant (growing). When a church splits (dying) there may be two or three factions, and worse of all, some stop attending church competely [​IMG]
    I have been in a couple of splits myself. One an IFB, came into our EBC (SBC in Germany) (the previous pastor went back to the states beacuse his wife was in the last stages of cancer) We were running around 200. After the split (on Feb 29) some went to the chapel and some stop attending. Main cause - An IFB wanted to take our church out of the SBC. Sounds like a power play to me.
     
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    SPLIT v (6) to become divided through disagreement...separation into factions;schism: a split in a church.

    When a church starts a new work, that is a mission plant (growing). When a church splits (dying) there may be two or three factions, and worse of all, some stop attending church competely [​IMG]
    I have been in a couple of splits myself. One an IFB, came into our EBC (SBC in Germany) (the previous pastor went back to the states beacuse his wife was in the last stages of cancer) We were running around 200. After the split (on Feb 29) some went to the chapel and some stop attending. Main cause - An IFB wanted to take our church out of the SBC. Sounds like a power play to me.
    </font>[/QUOTE]I know of a new church that has been doing this since it began 4-1/2 years ago. It has started nine new thriving churches. All of tehm are dioing very well. I visietd one and there is a boldness unlike I have ever seen in any other church. Many people have come to Christ through their ministry. Each church is started by the church knowing that people will leave them to go to another church. They love it.
     

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