taken from the New Hymns topic.... honestly, it is the first time i've heard of the biblical justification of singing the same phrase over and over, taken from Revelations: Revelation 4:8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. So, i'm still at the stage of thinking about it... I mentioned in the other topic this verse about vain repetitions: Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. I was thinking more about the kind of prayer/ chanting that people of other religions practice, like the Buddhists. Or even the Hail Mary. i guess i was likening repetitive singing to what Jesus was referring to in matthew 6:7 Some questions i have for the people out there who are more informed than myself about what i describe as circuituos, repetitive songs: 1) when did this kind of music (style) appear on the church scene? And from which "sector" of Christianity? 2) why didn't great hymn writers read revelations and come to the same conclusions as song writers and worship leaders of our day??? Thanks.