Civilian Victims Of USA Aerial Bombing

I didn't say the US government attacked itself. I said the government (or a rogue faction) may have had a hand in it.

There are thousands of books in print on the subject now. Colonel Donn de Grand pre has three very good books in print. He's the guy that gave the 11 page report to the joint chiefs of staff on 911.

Colonel Donn de Grand pre

Zbigniew Brzezinski,

Couselor, Center for strategic and International Studies.

Professor of American Foreign Policy, John Hopkins University.

National Security Adviser to Jimmy Carter 1977-81.

Trustee and Founder of the Trilateral Commission.

International adviser of several major US/ Global corporations.

Associate of Henry Kissenger.

Under Ronald Reagan-member of NSC-Defense Dept. Commission on Integrated Long Term Strategy

Past member, Board of Directors, The Council On Foreign Relations.

Wrote a book called the "Grand Chessboard" that could be veiwed as the battle plan for the "war on terror".
The Grand Chessboard

Then you have the Project For A New American Century. (interesting names involved with it) Rebuilding America's Defenses.
Rebuilding America's Defenses.

And a whole mountain of evidence carried in the back pages of newspapers. Here in archives. Pay no attention to the comments made here just read the clippings from the "mainstream media".

INFOWARS

Prison Planet

Congressman Ron Paul and his Neo-Conned speech. Among other of his speeches.
Neo-Conned

Then there are the accounts of other Republics through out history that have been overthrown with "manufactured Terror".

Rome and Germany come to mind right off.

Motive? Greed. (Billions and Billions) in defense contracts and energy assets stolen from other countries lined up like dominos in "the Grand Chessboard".

<a href="http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html" target="_blank">Meet
The Carlyle Group</a>

Motive? Power. Raise up a police state to protect the power they have now. Thanks to 15 decades of non-stop and non-sunsetted "emergency war powers acts". Attack free speech and silence any dissent among the "chattel". Take a look at the new "freespeech zones" in Boston and Miami and other places in America.

Motive? Control. Patriot Acts I, II, and all the other freedom restricting laws now on the books that never would have passed without the surprize shock of 911.

Or Clintons crime package that he was having trouble getting passed until the OKC bombing.

I'm goin to stop now.

 

USN2Pulpit

 

It depends on what your definition of conspiracy theorist is. Do you mean some one that believes in ghost stories, UFOs and little green men from Mars? My answer no.


Or, do you mean someone that finds the "official story" of 911 hard to believe on such scant evidence as CNN's say so? My answer yes.

Now a question for you...are you being objective?

 

USN2Pulpit,

I have been asked to provide (rock solid) evidence to back up everything I say on this board (with few exceptions) and I have tried to just this as best I can.

Yet when I ask folks to provide their (rock solid) evidence that supports their belief...I get the same ole reply...move to another country...conspiracy theorist! A weak defense of your position on this subject. Is this the best you can come up with?

This is not evidence or objectivity. I think maybe it is because of a fear that you have to little evidence to support your position.

 

"I (like almost every other sensible person) thought "Islamic terrorists."

So your thoughts along with (every other sensible persons) thoughts are conclusive evidence?

How did you and every other sensible person arrive at this conclusion?

I don't really expect and answer to this question, just more jokes and insults.

 

Once again you (and I don't mean only you) avoid answering a question and sidetrack to questioning my actions and the credibility of "my" sources.

I have at least attempted to offer some evidence of my convictions...to support my position on this subject.

No, now I think it's your turn to offer some evidence to support your convictions.

Why must the burden of proof always be
put back on me?

It seems to me that if you are so convinced in what you believe to be true you would be only to happy to provide us all with your concrete evidence.


And I do not wish to be at odds.

 

These charges as you call them have already been in the "mainstream media" you just choose to ignore them for one reason or another.

I gave you two links in an earlier post. I don't know if you bothered to look at them or give them any serious thought. But. I have my doubts.

You probably couldn't bring yourself to look past the title of the website or the commentary contained in them long enough to notice that they are in actual fact an archive of news articles from the "mainstream media" documenting in no uncertain terms the trends that have been going on all around you.

You hear the term conspiracy theory and your objectivity goes out the window. That is called conditioning. Sorry if this offends you.

The two websites are:

Infowars

and

Prisonplanet

In case you would like to try your own advice and be objective. I have included them again. Look into the archives of the "mainstream media" articles on prisonplanet...go back two or three or four years and start adding it up.

 

I can't begin to imagine how I have refused to look at the evidence. I have seen you post none.

Only demands that I be the one to provide all the evidence, which I at least attempted to do. While excepting ridicule and offering my apologies for going overboard.

This is kind of a one sided debate I agree. But it was kind of interesting thanks for your posts.

BTW, CMG, I'm sorry, didn't mean to burst your bubble about the UFO's.