Codex Sinaiticus Online

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  1. Deacon

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    Codex Sinaiticus is now online.
    The site, while still in the process of being built, still looks impressive.

    You'll need a high-speed conection
    And you'll have to install another Microsoft tool (what fun!).

    A wee bit of Deutsch might help.

    Codex Sinaiticus Leipziger [LINK]

    Known as א (Aleph) or 01, Sinaiticus was written in majuscule script (capitals letters) on velum (specially prepared fine leather) and has been dated to 330–350 AD.

    For a more complete history and description see Codex Sinaiticus from Wikipedia [LINK]

    Rob
     
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    Thanks, Deacon. This is great stuff!
     
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    Cool! Thanks, Deacon.
     
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    July 24, 2008

    Codex Sinaiticus Online [LINK]
    New site location

    Codex Sinaiticus is one of the most important books in the world. Handwritten well over 1600 years ago, the manuscript contains the Christian Bible in Greek, including the oldest complete copy of the New Testament.
    Its heavily corrected text is of outstanding importance for the history of the Bible and the manuscript - the oldest substantial book to survive Antiquity - is of supreme importance for the history of the book.

    The Codex Sinaiticus Project
    The Codex Sinaiticus Project is an international collaboration to reunite the entire manuscript in digital form and make it accessible to a global audience for the first time.
    Drawing on the expertise of leading scholars, conservators and curators, the Project gives everyone the opportunity to connect directly with this famous manuscript.

    The Codex Sinaiticus Website
    The first release of the Codex Sinaiticus Project website will be launched on 24 July 2008 here.
    The website will be substantially updated in November 2008 and in July 2009, by when the website will have been fully developed.
     
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    The amount of corrections needed in this copy shows how flawed copies of copies of copies can become. Errors are compounded with each copy (hence the Byz family has no 2 of nearly 5000 copies that agree with each other)
     
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    Nor does the Alexandrian text form. One need look no further than Aleph and B who conflict with one another in staggering proportions in the gospels alone.
     
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    The dating of this manuscript is pure conjecture. (Direct quote forthcoming.)
     
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    [​IMG]

    This a page from Metzger's The Text of the New Testament. Notice that he does not qualify his statement that this codex is dated from "about the fifth century." Anyone can make a blanket statement such as this. I need to see more evidence before accepting an unsubstantiated claim.

    He uses the word "probably" earlier in the page when explaining when the corrections were made.

    More quotes to come.
     
  10. Ehud

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    WOW! THIS IS A GREAT WONDERFUL NEW THREAD. HOW EVER DID WE COME UP WITH THIS ONE:laugh: :laugh:

    Thanks Deacon, a little late.

    Let's not make this whole thing out to be scholarly or for the LEARNED just go here. It's in English.
    http://www.csntm.org/Manuscripts/GA 01/

    REMEMBER, brought to you by Ehud, FIRST!

    Make sure you check out the last twelve verse of Mark
    http://www.csntm.org/Manuscripts/GA 01/GA01_029a.jpg


    This is for Rippen
    A.V. 1611 "And ye shall know the Trueth, and the Trueth shall make you free." John 8:32
    A.V.1769 "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32

    Ehud... educating those who want only the truth.
     
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    Again, just a blanket statement; no substantiation.
     
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    Another blanket statement.

     
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    Pure conjecture.
     
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    Where is the evidence? One would think that the leading textual expert would have something more to offer than just blanket statements.

    It appears that most, if not all Critical Text authors are simply repeating what they've been taught. No real proof exists. It simply fits a theory so they use it.
     
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    Should these types of unsubstantiated claims be accepted? They seem to be the norm.
     
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    I have searched through dozens of books the past few days; I can find none that provide evidence of the early writing of Aleph and B. All I find is unsubstantiated blanket statements. Such statements would never be accepted from an opposing author.
     
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    I think it is fair to say, Pastor Bob, that your background (at least insofar as you have given it here) does not render you qualified to sit in judgment on these statements you cite.

    As you should know, manuscripts do not come with dates. They are dated by a number of criteria, and all assertions about the dates are some form of conjecture. I imagine that if someone said Aleph and B were 15th century manuscripts you would not be whining about the lack of substantiation. You would be asserting the late date proves their worthlessness.
     
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    I think my background would lend itself to at least an above average reading comprehension.

    While I agree with you 100%, why is it only the TR crowd that admits this fact?

    It is not their date, in my opinion, that proves their worthlessness. It seems odd to base an "oldest is best" philosophy on manuscripts whose date of writing is pure conjecture.
     
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    First, not just anyone is making these kinds of statements. Whenever a significant scholar makes a statement his credibility is on the line. If someone could prove that the scholar was endorsing a false statement then his reputation would be seriously damaged; a good reputation is the currency of the scholar's trade.

    Second, you may never be satisfied with the evidence offered. The age of ancient documents are determined by examination of the materials (ink, binding, parchment, etc.) and many other factors (characteristics of writing style, etc). It could take a lifetime of study to fully appreciate the depth of knowledge neccessary to accurately date an ancient manuscript to within a few decades of its origin; in other words, if they offered us all the substantiation we probably wouldn't fully understand much of it anyway.
     
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    If Oldest is Best, Stick with the A.V. 1611

    If oldest is best then why not stick to the A.V 1611...1769 for those who are technical and sinsitive about this area. :1_grouphug:

    We love old manuscripts but we do not love a 400 year old Bible.
    If it's good for Greek why not English???

    They fall all over ancient manuscripts yet kick, mock, and laugh the old A.V 1611

    I mean a 400 year old Bible must be better then a 100 year old, or 80, 70, 60, 50, 40 ,30 20 10, 5 year old translation. I think I covered all the new ones


    Ehud

    A.V 1611 "And if any man shall take away from the wordes of the booke of this prophesie, God shal take away his part out of the booke of life..."Revelation 22:19
    A.V 1769 "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life..."Revelation 22:19
     

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