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Confess Which Elections You Voted Democrat

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by saturneptune, Jul 28, 2012.

  1. carpro

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    Knowing what I know about Richard Nixon today, I would still vote for him now if the ultra liberal McGovern was running against him.

    Except for Obama's anti- American agenda, he and McGovern wouldn't have been that much different.
     
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    A while back, I tried to revive the Whig party, but the best I could do was Dolly Parton for Prez, and Elvira, mistress of the dark, for Veep.

    I thought, "well, I can at least ask them what platform they were running on", and when I did, they showed me their 5" stilettos and said they would try to run with them on, but they didn't know how far. So I just shook their hands, and broke off the hope of reviving the Whig party.


    Later on, I heard rumblings that they were pushing for RuPaul to be the Secretary of State, so I am glad I decided to stop when I did. :D :laugh:
     
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    Obama=morally corrupt
    Romney=fiscally corrupt

    Again:
    Obama=morally corrupt
    Romney=fiscally corrupt


    I will never vote for Obama because of his stance for pro-choice, and him openly supporting gay marriage.

    I will never vote for Romney because of his record when he was gov. of mass. If the stats are true, then what will he do with our country. Republicans have been, and always will be, pro-big business, and not for the working middle class. I can not support him for that either. I will stay out of the Presidential election this year, thank you very much.

    See above comments regarding Obama.....
     
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    Our voting history is almost identical. The only difference is I voted for Carter in 1976, and you voted for him in 1980. My reasoning in 1976 was that I was very disillusioned by the antics of Nixon after voting for him, and the Ford pardon of Nixon. I felt the country needed a conservative President and Carter was from the South. The next four years had really nothing to do with left vs right, the problem was a total lack of leadership and vision. The country basically drifted by the forces that be for the entire period.

    We bought our only house in that period of time, with a rate of 15+%. By the 1980 election, I really did not care who was running on the opposite ticket, I was going to vote for them. The final straw was the handling of the hostages in Iran.
     
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    I was in Viet Nam on a firebase when I voted for McGovern. I appreciate and revere Commander Stockdale as a hero and a patriot. But didn't Presidnt Nixon do the same thing? Yes, he got most of the POW's home but he also left hanging the people who fought with us. I am not talking about the South Viet Namese, but the Montagnards and Hmong people.

    I wonder if he would really rather have been in the hanoi Hilton rather than at home with his wife and children?

    But it wasn't just because of his stand on Viet Nam. President Nixon was a criminal who lied to the American people for years and then destroyed evidence of his criminality.
     
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    Obviously he did not destroy it well enough. If one is going to be a criminal, then do it completely. Why he did not destroy or erase the tapes, who knows?
     
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    I voted for Carter in 1976. I voted for Reagan in 1980 however.

    I voted for both Gore and Kerry. Looking back I am glad they both lost the election.

    In 2008 I voted for McCain.

    In 2012 I will vote for Romney.
     
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    Just what record of Romney are you talking about?

    You realize of course that under our system of Federal government the president cannot spend money that the Congress does not appropriate? So your argument that Romney is fiscally corrupt is not valid!

    As for Republicans and big business. I sometimes think they are dupes of "big business" because "big business" is apolitical. I suspect that most big businessmen are pro democrat. That is certainly true of Wall Street and of the two richest men in the country.

    As for Republicans not being for the working middle class: Just who are all the people that vote Republican? There are not that many rich people in the country. I have always been in the "working middle class". I wanted to be rich but didn't make it. All my fore bearers were working class people, some were just down right pore; sadly not a filthy rich person amongst them. And they were all Republicans, at least all the smart ones. If I have a rich sibling they have hid it well! None of my progeny are millionaires though I have hopes; and they all vote Republican because:

    1. They love the country as it was instituted, not as the democrat/Socialist party would make it.
    2. They believe in "free enterprise".
    3. They hate abortion and abortionists! They believe that a party that would endorse and promote the slaughter of unborn children is out of the pits of hell
    4. They are opposed to the Totalitarian Socialism of the democrat party.
    5. They are convinced that the leftists in this country, who dominate the democrat party, are anti Christian, pro homosexual, totalitarian elitists.


    Smart children and grandchildren!
     
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    I always thought he expected to make money from them.

    Nixon had the election stolen from him in 1960 and for the good of the country kept silent. Name a democrat who would do that.

    Nixon exposed Communists in high places in the Federal government and for that earned the undying hatred of the left wing press.

    If Nixon had character flaws prior to the above two experiences in his life they were certainly exacerbated by those.

    That being said Nixon was always an America First person and that cannot be said of some of the democrat candidates since WWII! In fact I always thought FDR liked Old Joe, the greatest mass murderer in history [other than perhaps the seven justices who gave us unfettered abortion], far too much!
     
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    The wars in Viet Nam and Korea were a shame in my opinion for the simple reason that there was not the will in the Federal Government and the American people to win. About 50,000 men died in each war needlessly. I am afraid that those men and women who died in Iraq and are still dying in Afghanistan have also died needlessly.

    The treatment of returning troops from Viet Nam was a disgrace but it was enhanced by leftist politicians like McGovern, McCarthy, Humphrey, and others, and tolerated by the American people.

    The abandonment of prisoners in Viet Nam is a blight on this country. I cannot blame this exclusively on politicians. The American people who sat on their thumbs are also guilty.

    Can you name anyone who would?

    Tom,
    I served in the Navy during Korea, all my time in the Atlantic, and I thank God for that. I had 5 brothers who served during WWII, 3 saw action, one did not come home.

    I cannot comprehend how men can go into battle; how they could climb down those nets, how they could ride those landing craft ashore, how they could jump out of a plane. I am amazed when I see young men and women want to go back to the Middle East.

    Knowing what I do about Viet Nam I can understand how those there would vote for McGovern. That being said I believe that people like McGovern and Jane Fonda actually prolonged this senseless war! I don't agree with your vote but I honor your service!
     
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    There was a time I really admired Richard Nixon, in fact, I got to shake his hand in 1973. My Dad commented one time that he must be a very tortured soul with a peculiar mix of good and evil. Maybe this is the ultimate puzzle within an enigma. Some of his greatest achievements were in foreign affairs. The budget was in much better shape, and Congress actually did their job. Without all the paranoid nonsense, he would have been one of this nation's greatest Presidents, but as it is, he is near the bottom. What a waste of talent.
     
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    [1] Reagan - R
    [2] Bush - R
    [3] Bush - R
    [4] Dole - R
    [5] W. Bush - R
    [6] W. Bush - R
    [7] McCain - R
    [8] ?? - ?

    I have never voted Democrat. I did abstain once. During the gubernatorial elections in Louisiana when it was down to Edwin Edwards v. David Duke.
     
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    A lot of good Christians voted for Carter in 1976 because he was "a born again Christian", no other reason. Look what you got!

    Now a lot of good Christians are not going to vote for Romney because he is not "a born again Christian", and are in essence voting for Obama. And you know what you are going to get, a bankrupt country.

    Folks we are not electing a preacher/pastor. We are electing a president.
     
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    Who did you vote for in 1948?
     
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    I voted for Nixon and still like him. I think overall he was a very good President. He got us out of Viet Nam, he started the peace process with China. I do believe he was paranoid and overly afraid of his political enemies, McGovern never had a chance against him.

    The Watergate break-in is nothing compared to Fast and Furious, it was a bungled burglary that he tried to conceal. No one was killed. Fast and Furious on the other hand is responsible for several hundred deaths, including a Border Patrol agent. Obama is a far greater criminal than Nixon ever dreamed of, but the media loves Obama and never holds him accountable.

    And folks think Nixon was a criminal?
     
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    My problem with Nixon I suppose was that I very much admired him as President at my young age at the time. At first, I thought it all a lie from the media or his liberal enemies. The day Barry Goldwater asked him to resign, that was about it for me.

    Had someone like Johnson done the same thing, I would not have given it a second thought, as I think he was the worst President of all times until Obama came along. Do you remember a guy named Billy Solestes?
     
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    Really is very sad!
     
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    Billy Sol Estes! I believe!
     
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    OK S/N, this for you!:tonofbricks::tonofbricks:
     
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    The abandonment of prisoners in Viet Nam is a blight on this country. I cannot blame this exclusively on politicians. The American people who sat on their thumbs are also guilty.

    Can you name anyone who would?

    My question was about the idea that he expressed that he would rather have still been in the prison than have McGovern crawl to Hanoi. So I would agree that I cannot ever think of anyone who would

    Tom,
    I served in the Navy during Korea, all my time in the Atlantic, and I thank God for that. I had 5 brothers who served during WWII, 3 saw action, one did not come home.

    I cannot comprehend how men can go into battle; how they could climb down those nets, how they could ride those landing craft ashore, how they could jump out of a plane. I am amazed when I see young men and women want to go back to the Middle East.

    Knowing what I do about Viet Nam I can understand how those there would vote for McGovern. That being said I believe that people like McGovern and Jane Fonda actually prolonged this senseless war! I don't agree with your vote but I honor your service!


    Thank you. But I put the traitor Fonda in a different category than Senator McGovern. Fonda cheered when a US plane was shot down. She saw the marks on the POW's bodies and said nothing. I don't think she was smart enough to think through things on her own, but she was different.

    I voted for McGovern as much about ending Viet Nam which was going to end soon anyway, but also about the criminality of Nixon. He may have done some good things, but the level of criminality is seen in the number of his henchman who went to jail.

    I think our current President is also going to be remembered for trying to destroy our freedoms. His attorney general ought to be tried for fast and furious. I think that the President has to stand behind Holder because if holder goes down so will he. But just because this current President is not getting any court time is not a reason for implying that Nixon was anything other than a common criminal.

    Thank you for your service as well as your family also. I had a grnadad in WW1, a father in WW2, an uncle in Korea. All of them came back, but all bore the wounds of service both physically and mentally.
     
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