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Confessions of a Former Worship Leader

Discussion in 'Music Ministry' started by Aaron, Dec 28, 2003.

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  1. Jim Ward

    Jim Ward New Member

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    Aaron,

    I've read Dan Lucarini's book a good 7 times since I came into ownership of it. I love it! It's a book that's written in a very humble and contrite manner, and doesn't get into the heavy handed "I'm right, you're wrong" type of attitude. I've also since gotten to meet and know Brother Lucarini and find to be the same humble man in person that he comes across as in his boook.

    I do beleive that he has another book in the works, and I know I am looking forward to reading it when it comes out.


    In His Service,
    Jim
     
  2. Daniel

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    I really agree about Dan L's spirit. I wrote him a fairly strong, pointed email from the point of view of someone going from the traditional-only point of view to SOME CCM. His response was gracious, humble, and open. He and I strongly disagree on some points, but I sense that our disagreements can be carried out in a civil manner. I am looking forward to more dialogue with him in future days.
     
  3. Aaron

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    Yes, I've been in touch with him, too. He registered with the BB at my request, but I don't know who he registered as.

    He's read this thread and commented on it to me in e-mail. I was hoping he'd be more active.
     
  4. Jim Ward

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    Aaron,

    Dan joined using his own name and made only one post. he has shared with me that he doesn't like the anonymity(sp?) of msg boards and would prefer to not get to involved in them. He did offer his e-mail addy for those who wish to contact him, and at times I feel he has the right idea regarding these boards, but until I get a conviction, I'll stay, visit and post when able.


    Jim
     
  5. Daniel

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    As I said above, I have emailed him directly. He was most gracious.

    As to the board's anonymity, I find that the very vehicle by which we can be free to TRULY express ourselves. When we know someone or see someone, we get timid. On the board we can "speak" freely with little inhibition (though sometimes we wish there were some inhibition!! :eek: )
     
  6. Baptist in Richmond

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    He is registered as himself, and made one post. It is on page 3, I think.
    (Sorry, Jim: didn't see your post.)

    Why would he be hesitant to discuss this publicly? :confused:
     
  7. Aaron

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    From his email to me:

     
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    Maybe because he has read enough posts on the subject to know that we're not going to let him off easy.
     
  9. Daniel

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    From what I read in his personal email to me, he can more than hold his own. He is a lot more tempered and kind than some who post on this board. You can actually listen to him because his written demeanor is not shouting above his logic. I found him to be quite refreshing though I soundly disagree with him on several points.

    Naturally I am not able to quote what he said to me since this was a private correspondence and it would violate ethics for me to share from such a private correspondence without his permission.
     
  10. Aaron

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    There should be a crybaby emoticon. It would go great right here. [​IMG]
     
  11. Daniel

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    Mockery annihilates credibility.
     
  12. Aaron

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    Another interesting thread that warrants a second look. [​IMG]
     
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    Hey all I'm new here but the comments from Dan's book struck me. What struck me even more was that the selective comments chosen for this thread were shared as gospel truth instead of a man's opinon and very possibly mistakes made as a praise and worship leader and yet pushing them as common mistakes made with all worship leaders and or teams. I appreciate Dan's willingness to open up his time and energy for emails to discuss this, shows graciousness on his part.

    The reasons posed for traditional or ccm/praise and worship prior to the service both have valid points and yet not one single point is correct over the other. To assume or believe that it is purposed to prepare hearts for the preaching only is very arrogant for a pastor to think that his message is the only thing that brings the flock closer to God. The presence of God should be entered into regardless of the style of music otherwise all you will have is a dead stale service and unless all you want to do is sit in a pew for a few hours with nothing changing inside of your heart then hey...that's the place for you!

    Each individual will get something different from the service, it may be in the traditional or praise and worship or in the sermon itself, but that's up to the spirit of God who should ultimately be controling how the service goes in the first place.

    As for older people being pushed out or feeling pushed out due to lack of change....fact is, they have to realize that they are the tools God used to create a strong foundation and nothing can change that, however they are no longer the future of the church and long after they are gone the future of the church will indeed be making changes. They too made changes when they were young because God led them to do what created a healthy church in the first place, thus God can and should use the young to bring in fresh ideas and see more happen because that is how the cycle should go. Most older folks I've spoken to don't seem to have an issue with it, they seem to hold the view that even though it's different from what they would like to see, fact is they are seeing younger generations bring in the unsaved and God is using new methods so in fact they put their stamp of approval on it.

    BTW...sorry I didn't rally introduce myself before I jumped in with my thoughts....I'm Darlene but it's much easier to call me kidscare2.
     
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    When these hymns were originally written, most of them were written similarly to the current praise songs. They took words, and combined them with popular music of the time (in fact a lot of hymns are put over the melodies of drinking songs). The people who wrote these songs, wanted a new way to worship.

    People had as much objection to lyrics and songs then, as people do now to current songs. Some were written and rewritten, but yet they made it and have stayed in the hearts of many people for many years.

    I'm not a P&W Only person or a Hymn Only person, I understand and appreciate both sides. A lot of Praise and Worship songs are old hymns that have been put to new music and a new beat, while others are new creations all together.

     
  16. Baptist in Richmond

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    Why was this discussion revived?
     
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    BiR,

    Because it "warrants a second look." Come on... keep up. ;)
     
  18. Dale McNamee

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    Dear Joshua and BiR,

    Maybe he caught himself enjoying CCM!
    :D :rolleyes: [​IMG]

    In Christ,

    Dale
     
  19. Aaron

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    Hey look! It's Beaner and Bonga Dale back again! I knew as soon as I started resurrecting some old discussions you'd pop back in.

    I sure miss the ever ethically superior Daniel. [​IMG]
     
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