Conservatives who don't care about abortion

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  1. Paul3144

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    What do you all think about people who are otherwise conservative but don't care about abortion? My co-worker, Johnny (name changed to ensure privacy), is a hard right-winger and hates President Obama but he says he doesn't care if a woman has an abortion, doesn't care about the unborn, and says that it would be better for welfare moms to have abortions so they don't burden the taxpayer with their children. I don't talk about politics at work so he doesn't know what I think.

    Johnny's an interesting guy. He graduated from law school but he "failed the *** out of the bar exam". That's why, like me, he works in a quasi-managerial position for a chemical lawn care company. However, he says he likes it better than he would like being a lawyer.

    He's a hard right-winger on most things but the only valid reason he sees to ban abortion is "to *** liberals off". Do you know anyone like this? What do you think about them?
     
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    Are you worried whether or not he is saved, or do you just want us to spout off on how much we hate abortion ?
     
  3. Robert Snow

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    Paul asked a pretty straight forward question. Why is it you can not answer without the usual BS. He wasn't attacking you or any other conservative. <pa deleted - LE>!
     
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    There are many kinds of "conservative".
     
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    What I want is for you to answer the question in the OP.
     
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    The answer is I don't worry about how the unsaved feel about abortion. The Holy Spirit can only guide those in whom he resides.

    It is christians who don't care about abortion who do the real damage.
     
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    Hi Robert. I see you still have a crush on me.

    Why don't you answer, too ?
     
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    I think that the ultimate human right is the right to life for the unborn. If we fail in that equal rights mean nothing.

    I don't really care about someone who takes a position just the make someone mad. It's like the middle schooler who does what he does because his parents say not to.
     
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    There are as many flavors of conservatism as there are flavors of Baptists. I daresay that you could randomly pick 10 people who identify with being a hard-core conservative and pick any topic at random and the 10 will not agree.

    I've never considered being pro-life as a requirement for a politically conservative merit badge.

    Being pro-life is more of a Christian ethic or a religious ethic than a politically conservative ethic. And there are lots of people who identity with being conservative who are not Christians.
     
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    Just an observation: You say you don't talk about politics at work, so he doesn't know what you think.
    1) you and Johnny don't talk about politics at work, so you must be talking about it away from work; but then again, he doesn't know what you think, so you're not talking about it to him anywhere besides work.
    2) if it's not away from the workplace, then Johnny's doing a lot of talking about politics on the job; in which case, you'd have every right to talk politics back with him (since he started it). But again, he doesn't know what you think, so you're obviously not discussing politics with him while on the job.

    So you're obviously not talking to Johnny about politics anywhere; which only leads the conclusion that you believe exactly opposite from Johnny, and aren't willing to cause a ruckus at the workplace (possibly because Johnny "out-ranks" you?), and therefore aren't willing to stand up for your personal beliefs.

    Perhaps you should try telling Johnny that you'd rather not discuss politics at the work place; and if he persists, talk with his supervisor about having him cut down the rhetoric that is causing an uncomfortable atmosphere in the work area.
     
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    And there are a lot of pro-life people who are not necessarily born-again Christians.
     
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    Now, to answer your question: If that's actually his "only valid reason" to ban abortion, no, that's not valid at all.

    Second, centering only on the abortion issue, and not caring about his "right-wingedness" or "hatred of Obama," I'd have to talk with him to determine why he thinks it's okay to kill unborn human beings. And I'd put it in exactly those terms, because an abortion isn't just about a woman's body; it's also about the human life growing inside her.
     
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    Just check out posting number nine. Scarlett O has said it better than I could have.
     
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    Robert,
    Do you realize everyday you go to work results in a Snow job?
     
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    Pleased to hear there is at least one right winger who thinks people are more important than potential people.
     
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    What do you think about liberals who claim to be pro life but do everything they can to advance the pro abortion agenda?

    Examples:

    Obama and Paul 3144
     
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    Not much differently than I think about someone who claims to be pro life but supports pro abortion politics and pro abortion politicians.
     
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    :laugh:
    Remind me to stand in line behind billwald at the final judgement...

    After him I going to be looking pretty good. :laugh:
     
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    What do you think about them since you are always arguing with people who paint an accurate picture of pro abortion Republicans and Democrats?
     
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    Your place has been reserved, #34993, between an IRS agent and this year's Republican nominee.
     

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