On another board, there is a minister who used to be Baptist and changed to become a United Methodist. He changed from ministering in an eternal security believing Church to a Wesleyan Arminian believing Church. He said the problem he sees with many eternal security believers is that they, in effect, believe they have a contract with God; whereas many Wesleyan Arminian believers consider themselves in the family of God, i.e. security as a business agreement vs. security by being in the Family. I have studied these type issues for many years, and this is the first I have seen it presented like this. Any thoughts on this?