Controversial Subject To Preach On

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  1. Ulsterman

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    This is a similar idea to the one suggesting controversial Scriptures. Some subjects are taboo, and few preachers raise them, here are some suggestions for starters.

    The Role of Women in the Church
    Divorce & Remarriage
    Is Sunday the Sabbath?
    The Modern Tongues Movement

    What might you add?
     
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    I don't do topical preaching. Therefore, I don't have a topic to add. Exegetical preaching provides the most freedom for the preacher. You take a book of the Bible, start at Chapter One & verse one and preach through the entire book verse by verse. Whatever topic comes up in the Scripture so be it. You deal with it honestly and simply preach the Word of God.
     
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    I will say again that I think anything preached on seperation.
     
  4. Squire Robertsson

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    Not to be a dog in the manger, but any of those "topics" will be covered even if one preaches exegetical messages.</font>
    • The Role of Women in the Church-First Timothy and First Corinthians</font>
    • Divorce & Remarriage-First Corinthians (Throw in First Timothy again and you'll be dealing with the "bishops and deacons" facet of the question.)</font>
    • Is Sunday the Sabbath?-Galatians</font>
    • The Modern Tongues Movement-Acts and First Corinthians (again)</font>
    Now the question is how much time do you spend in a message on the topics given above or others that might discomfort you hearers as you get to the appropriate portion of Scripture.
     
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    Wow, I am suprised no one has mentioned preaching against OR about whether or not the masonic lodge (freemasons) are a cult or a religious club. I have heard several pastors who have been fired (deacons were members of the lodge) for just mentioning this subject casually in the pulpit. [​IMG]
     
  6. Major B

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    No one touches that around here. One of the reasons why no church will call me as a pastor (and most in this county will not call me to supply) is that a leading Mason was the ringleader in getting me fired at my first (and as it increasingly looks, only) pastorate. I did not say anything about the Masons from the pulpit, it is just that a "brother Mason" was offended by me.

    Every time I have candidated, I get outstanding recommendations from the leading Baptist leaders in the area, and the churches have initially been very happy with my wife and I and with my preaching. Then, the phones heat up, and I am suddenly history. The last time, I was told on a Sunday evening that the committee was going to recommend me to the church the next Wednesday. Tuesday, I got a call that there was a problem, and that was that. Their loudest deacon was a 33rd degree Mason.

    At this point, I have given up. My mentor told me that it wouldn't make any difference if I candidated in Alaska--once the square and compass society puts you on their list, you are history.

    So yeah, I'd say preaching against the Masons would be guaranteed trouble in most places.
     
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    Yes my Pastor has preached on that subject and lots of others that people would find very upsetting. But hey I love him and I am so glad he tells it like it is. [​IMG]
     
  8. Xenos

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    I have found that most preachers do not want to deal with:
    1. The Scriptural role of a deacon.
    2. Reasons for not accepting foreign baptism.
    3. The women's role in the church.
    4. The problems of speaking in tongues.

    These were the main problems of the last church I pastored.

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    Interpretations of the Book of Revelation, Ezekial and Daniel can be interesting. [​IMG]
     
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    My pastor has preached several times on 1, 3, and 4.
     
  11. Xenos

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    There is another controversial subject in church. The doctrine of sanctification. Very few teach the sanctified life and explain about the property being sanctified.

    In my youthful days, sanctification was preached rather regular in the churches. Sinner had more respect on church property then than Christians have now.

    Problem arose in a church nearby a few days ago when the associate pastor went to a ball game with baggy shorts on and a chew of tabacco in his mouth.

    Happy Valley Baptist Bible College
     
  12. Major B

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    Again, my pastor preaches on this--actually, since he preaches verse-by-verse exposition, he speaks on everything in turn. The county is getting ready for a wet-dry vote (wet is expected to pass), and he let it be known Wednesday night that any member of our church who operated a business selling liquor would be excommunicated.
     
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    Little brother I think you expository preaching rather than exegetical preaching ... I believe all preaching that uses the Bible would be exegetical. Otherwise how would one understand scripture.
     
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    [/QUOTE]Again, my pastor preaches on this--actually, since he preaches verse-by-verse exposition, he speaks on everything in turn. The county is getting ready for a wet-dry vote (wet is expected to pass), and he let it be known Wednesday night that any member of our church who operated a business selling liquor would be excommunicated. [/QB][/QUOTE]

    Is this a Baptist church? If yes would not the question of church discipline be up to the whole body. What if they didn't agree with the Pastor?
    What if the business person was the most powerful person in the church ... seems to me like that pastor would have to pack it in.
     
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    Here's one:

    I know the TRUE role of the deacon was mentioned (a servant not a leader or authority) but try to preach this one:

    The Pastor is the final authority (under Christ) in the Church.

    this will make a few deacons stand up and say, "Oh really? Let's see about that boy." :eek:
     
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    Again, my pastor preaches on this--actually, since he preaches verse-by-verse exposition, he speaks on everything in turn. The county is getting ready for a wet-dry vote (wet is expected to pass), and he let it be known Wednesday night that any member of our church who operated a business selling liquor would be excommunicated. [/QUOTE]

    Is this a Baptist church? If yes would not the question of church discipline be up to the whole body. What if they didn't agree with the Pastor?
    What if the business person was the most powerful person in the church ... seems to me like that pastor would have to pack it in. [/QB][/QUOTE]

    Brother Ronnie has been here 32 years, and the church has grown from an average attendance of 69 to over 1,000, and our large campus is paid for. The deacons are all men trained under him. He would not be the one to leave, trust me.
     
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    A mark of a Baptist church is "congregational polity". It is NOT a pastoral dictatorship.

    Sadly, many ifb churches ARE de facto dictatorship. One of our local ifb churches has a clause that "any vote of the congregation is purely advisory" with total decision-making authority vested in the pastor.

    Pastors are to shepherd and lead, not clobber the congregation with their own agenda.

    New ifb Motto: "Beat them sheep".
     
  18. Maverick

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    Friends, the topics are not controversial, but biblical and need to be preached as part of the "whole counsel of God." Problem is that most pastors don't have the conviction or brass to preach them for fear of losing their pastorate. That is one of the strong arguments for being a bivocational pastor. They can't scare you with being fired if your main salary is not from them. Of course, then there is the thought that if God really wants you there then preach the Book and the devil be damned for He will protect the man who preaches His Word uncut and unadulterated. But then you would have to believe that God is sovereign and not the deacons.

    People will start controversaries when their heart is not submitted to Him. If the Holy Spirit was given to lead us into all truth and we don't see eye to eye with each other then one of both of us are not listening to Him and hence the controversary.
     
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    Aren't there also some SBC congregations which are "de facto dictatorships"?!? [​IMG]
     
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    As to the question of being in the "liquor business" and a member of a given church, many churchs are like mine with a "dry" pledge clause in the membership app. My home church has been a temperence church since before The War (Spanish-American that is). If the church in question has taken that position over the years and having been in a dry jurisdiction had no need for vigorous application of it, well, the rubber is meeting the road.
     

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