Featured Covenant salvation

I would have to take a fresh look at His current position. Perhaps I can find it in sermon form on sermonaudio? Does he put it in his study bible?
or which book would have it.
I still have great respect for him...so I would like to read or here him directly on it.
My last messages of his were from the strange fire conference, and before that on Israel.

When I was taught premill....I did not have near enough knowledge of the covenants to be more discerning so it would be interesting to read or consider this freshly as he is a very competent brother who has taught me much over time.

 

Dhk,

good input...Thanks for the link...I will interact with it later on tonight

at first glance many similar ideas to the other views
:thumbsup::wavey:

 

Ok.lets look-

I agree that the OT has been replaced by the new as this is without dispute.

I reserve the right to look into our relationship to Divine law however.

This topic has mnay side issues.

agreed

agreed.....the topic of covenants and covenant salvation is much larger than what this article deals with. That is okay because each component deserves careful study and attention:thumbsup:

No one article can deal with such a large topic...so it has to be discussed in parts.

agreed....the theocracy came to an end because of sin and rebellion. This paves the way for gentile inclusion in the NC. That was God's design all along.
This mystery has been revealed to the church...Eph 3:9-11

There is one new man in Christ Now. Not two different programs unfolding.

more in pt2-

 

pt 2.................

agreed

This is where the error of dispensationalism takes over. The whole foundational idea is mistaken because there is a disregard for the Covenant of Redemption from the get go. there were saints from Adam, to Enoch, Abel,Noah, etc saved before Israel was a nation.

That Israel as a nation was singled out by God does not mean that Gentiles were not included in the plan. Mr Rugh states that gentiles were strangers and aliens to the Covenants....for the most part was historically true, however the mystery revealed was that the gentiles would be grafted in ON EQUAL FOOTING with believing Israel..

Gentiles are NOT...a Mystery form of the Kingdom....but the plowman is overtaking the reaper, and lengthen the cords and strengthen the stakes [isa54]is happening right now.

Isaiah 54 King James Version (KJV)

54 Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the Lord.

2 Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations: spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes;

3 For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left; and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited.

4 Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.

5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the Lord of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.6 For the Lord hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God.

7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.

8 In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the Lord thy Redeemer.

9 For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.10 For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the Lord that hath mercy on thee.

 

this whole paragraph is wrong...If time permits I will deal with this all by itself...

 

next.................

Dispy teachers stress that this new covenant promise was made to national Israel as if it were for them alone. It was indeed promised to the faithful remnant that God would preserve in that nation. Why was it seemingly made to national Israel only? because they were singled out among the nations at that time....and given the scripture and the promises;

3 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?

2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar

So to make this a big deal does not get it done.....the world was apart from the scripture and the promises in OT time except for some elect gentiles. they did not understand and intergrate in the verses of the gentiles flooding into the Israel of God.

the change was from outward and external to inward. The physical promise and the inward spiritual promise mesh together and here even our dispy friend says as much as he says this-

Now Mr Rugh reading his bible is forced to confess that we are the same...one new man In Christ. If he and any other premie will follow through they will see it also.

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This as written is error.20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

there has always been law and grace

 

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isa 54 is quoted twice in the nt as fulfilled

yes...he is quite confused right here.....it is now, not future.

he says it himself here;

he repeats it again;
Another direct reference to the New covenant is in 2 Corinthians 3:56; 'Not that we are adequate in ourselves to consider anything as coming from ourselves, but our adequacy is from God, who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter, but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.' The letter (the Law) brought death because it condemned man by demonstrating his unfaithfulness. But the Spirit, operating in connection with the New covenant, brings life. Paul says that he is a servant of the New covenant, proving that this covenant is already in operation.

 

While I posted ot......I was speaking of the old covenant.

The Covenants are fulfilled in Christ.

As Jesus reigns now He is our Prophet , Priest and King.

We do not see the final fulfillment until the last day.

DHK......your theology seems to ignore the Covenant of Redemption.....why is that?

 

DHK

Jesus is the true Israel and us in Him

Jesus is KING.......right now.....a King has a Kingdom.

That the theology you follow denies His Kingly reign is reason enough to flee that teaching.

I did not misread the article as much as you would like it to be so.