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Discussion in 'Youth Forum' started by Jodo Kast, Sep 10, 2004.

  1. Jodo Kast

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    Ok, this is the official Jodo Kast debating thread. In order to debate you gotta pick sides. I think you know mine, however here is some more of that info I've come across. Just to get us all wound up. [​IMG] .

    Ok, lets look at the Democrats Recent past:

    709,000 REGULAR (ACTIVE DUTY) PERSONNEL
    293,000 RESERVE TROOPS
    EIGHT STANDING ARMY DIVISIONS
    20 AIR FORCE AND NAVY AIR WINGS WITH 2,000 COMBAT AIRCRAFT :confused: (there goes my job)
    232 STRATEGIC BOMBERS
    19 STRATEGIC BALLISTIC MISSILE SUBMARINES WITH 3,114 NUCLEAR WARHEADS
    500 ICBMs WITH 1,950 WARHEADS
    FOUR AIRCRAFT CARRIERS AND 121 SURFACE COMBAT SHIPS AND SUBMARINES
    PLUS ALL THE SUPPORT BASES, SHIPYARDS, AND LOGISTICAL ASSETS NEEDED TO SUSTAIN SUCH A NAVAL FORCE

    This is all the American fighting forces that were eliminated during the Administration of Bill Clinton and Al Gore.

    Now lets take a look a kerrys senate voting record:

    He voted to kill the Bradley Fighting Vehicle
    He voted to kill the M-1 Abrams Tank
    He voted to kill every aircraft carrier laid down from 1988.
    He voted to kill the Aegis anti aircraft system
    He voted to Kill the F-15 Strike Eagle
    He voted to Kill the Block 60 F-16
    He voted to Kill the P-3 Orion upgrade
    He voted to Kill the B-1
    He voted to Kill the B-2
    He voted to Kill the Patriot Anti Missile System
    He voted to Kill the FA-18
    He voted to Kill the B-2
    He voted to Kill the F117

    In short, he voted to kill every military
    appropriation for the development and deployment of every weapons system since 1988

    includeing the battle armor for our troops!

    With Kerry as
    president our

    our Army will be made up of naked men running around with sticks and clubs.


    Not enough for you:
    he voted to cut funding to the:

    CIA 80%
    NSA 80%
    FBI 60%
    voted to kill every anti-terrorism activity of every agency.

    but no, Kerry did vote to increase UN funding by 800% !!!!!!!


    Go ahead start engraving your tombstone now. because Unfortunately I think he might win this november.

    please go by the us senate website and download Kerrys voting record. you will get nothing from that. you have to look at the bill itself and acctually see the sub bill attached to them. that is how stuff like this gets passed.
     
  2. KeithKorg19

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    Go Kerry.
    You can't just believe the political ads you see on tv. Not to say that he didnt vote for some of those things, but when you look at it out of context it gives the wrong impression. Such as Kerry voting against those weapons and things. They were all part of a 90 billion dollar military spending bill which dealt with a lot more than those few things.
    But anyway. I don't really like a debate. I will vote Kerry in november. And I PRAY that Bush isn't elected again.
     
  3. KeithKorg19

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    Besides, did we really need those 19 STRATEGIC BALLISTIC MISSILE SUBMARINES WITH 3,114 NUCLEAR WARHEADS? Yay 3114 nuclear warheads! Go republicans!
     
  4. amazinglove92

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    How could you vote for Kerry and his putrid wife?
    Keith how could you do this?
    Jesus wouldn't vote for Kerry.
    (Matt is in favor of this logic although it seems a tad ridiculous to everyone who reads it)
     
  5. TeenforChrist

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    [​IMG] Go President Bush! 4 more years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [​IMG]

    TFC [​IMG]
     
  6. Blazin4Christ

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    GO Bush! and Keith... if you like a man who is a...

    slave to the U.N.

    Extreme liberal

    who will cut out on a war needed

    who will stop anti-terrorist efforts because of his extremely pathetic and disguisting un-needed diplomacy

    and who is nothing to America but someone who will help move everyone 6 feet under,

    than vote for Kerry,
    [​IMG]

    want abortion rights?! vote Kerry!
    [​IMG]

    want liberalism that will destroy America morraly?! vote Kerry!
    [​IMG]

    want a coward running from a war that is needed?! Vote Kerry!
    [​IMG]

    but on a serious note... a quote from my Pastor

    "I don't like war, I lost my father in war. I hate wars. But i'll say this...the sickos that cause war will not budge on diplomacy! Especially Saddam INSANE and Osama HIS MOMMA, and of course people hide the fact that churches are springing up in Iraq, for all you know this could lead to a Middle Eastern revival! But...I don't liek war at all, I lost my father to Hitler, but I don't want to lose anymore fellow Americans to sick religious extremists like Bin Laden and Hussein anymore! We need a war to end terrorism, and we will win it!"
     
  7. DeclareHim

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    Go Bush !!! [​IMG]
     
  8. Jodo Kast

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    Im out of all political discussions. [​IMG] from now on.
     
  9. Sularis

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    Jesus would not vote for the proliferation of weapons

    Dont pull Jesus would vote Bush - because Jesus would send Bush to Hell if they ever met face to face

    Course Kerry stands an equal chance being sent to Hell - but at least I dont have the audacity to say my political views are inspired of God
     
  10. Jodo Kast

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    This is rediculous. Nobody speaks for Jesus :mad:
     
  11. pinoybaptist

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    Not on this board, buddy, not on this board.
     
  12. JesusInFirstPlace

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    And saying that Jesus would send Bush to hell? You don't know his heart, and you don't know his relationship with Christ. Bush claims salvation, so I'm inclined to believe him.
     
  13. Trotter

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    I will never vote for anyone who stands for abortion. Nor anyone who belongs to a political party that supports it.

    I voted for Bush Sr. twice, and I will vote for his son twice.

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     
  14. DeclareHim

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    :rolleyes: proliferation of weapons please. Go to the politics forum we have a discussion about the assault weapons ban going there. But the law was busted of course you being from canada wouldn't know that. It did nothing but ban "scary" looking guns. We saw an increase in gun related crime while that bill was in effect. It did nothing my mistaken friend.
     
  15. Sularis

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    Then again you being from the States might be surprised at what we Canadians know about you


    As to Jesus - at his coming the world will be restored to its proper order of peace - there will be no need for guns or any such weapon - so logically if the proper order doesnt include assault weapons or "scawy wooking" guns - then it dont include nuclear bombs or anything that Kerry voted against - man thats scary it makes Kerry almost Biblical! and Im no fan of Kerry either. Heck I think the Americans should have bombed Iraq ages ago and more thoroughly - after all war is for keeps and if you keep some bad guys around yer going to have problems

    Your guys choices are as bad as ours - except ours dont go around blowing up the world - in a poor attempt to pretend to kill terrorism.

    N Korea has nuclear weapons - if yer leader had a lot of nerve, he'd say drop em or ill show you what nukes can do and if China wants to interfere, well Taiwan always did claim they were the legitimate government of China they can have whats left.
    Saudi Arabians have been in every single major terrorist attack - tell em to shape up or youll give their country to someone else

    But no yer leader is bold with poorly armed countries that they sold and supplied weapons to in the first place.

    Yeah thats the kind of man Id want leading my country - wooo lets find some little guys that we can blow up - because im too incomp-dumb too deal with the real sources of terrorism!

    [ September 23, 2004, 04:13 PM: Message edited by: SaggyWoman ]
     
  16. amazinglove92

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    I watched the news last night and they have pictures of Iran making nuclear warheads! Isn't that scary!
    What we need to do is let Israel go, and we shoudl go take them out for the sake of the world's safety.An while where at it we should take out North Korea... ahh if i was only president! I have seen enough of them scary movies about world destruction due to warheads no thank you.
    Matt
     
  17. amazinglove92

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    Solaris. How is it in Canada, now that your not allowed to say homosexuality is wrong? Has your church got in trouble for that? Or are you just ignoring it and preaching on and pray you dont get in trouble? Just wondering.

    Matt
     
  18. Sularis

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    Actually - we can say its wrong - we're just no longer allowed to go outside our buildings and actively say to anyone homosexual you meet - You homo guy - Yer wrong - because my religion says so

    I have said to various homosexuals - I think its wrong - much like any other wrong thing - not better no worse - ive done my job ive told you its wrong - Im more then willing to answer more questions but you may not like what you hear; but you will have asked for it.

    We can preach on homosexuality - but not just not to the extent of godhatesfags.com - he's a "wee" bit to the crazy

    the only real thing a church can get in trouble for is refusing to do homosexual weddings - but that is easily countered by having a statement of beliefs in place. Again we are allowed to speak against homosexuality - we're just not allowed to plant burning crosses on their yards.
     
  19. AZfiddler_Oct1996

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    Good evening, this is not az fiddler this is her older brother.If You want to get millions of people killed in this country vote for kerry.
    aka abortion.
    If you want to lose your freedom to act and speak as you believe then vote for kerry.this young man from canada knows what i am talking about. a churchs pastor was arrested for speaking out against the horrible sinfull act of the perverts.
    aka. same sex union. Also i would like to point out that God or Jesus never uses crude words to express himself forcefully and god is not pleased when a person does not follow his example.Sularis you need to have a lot more respect because I would never have my little sis reading your argument. remember the use of slang or cursing or crude words is the effort of a feeble mind trying to express itself forcefully. sorry if i sound harsh but it is True. Timothy .
     
  20. Sularis

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    Curious - where did I use a word that is evil and defiling?

    My words in that post were actually quite calculated - specifically in the first section

    homo - I can call people that - the word is not evil - its just the tone - which i tried to convey which is not allowed in Canada

    We may not necessarily have freedom of speech - but we have freedom of expression - I can say anything I want - AS long as i say it appropriately

    there is actually a website godhatesfags.com - so you cant blame me for listing an insane man's page - I was trying to make a point that viewpoint is a little overbearing.

    SO unless someone points out examples - of horrible swearing - that is not culturally based but rather biblically based. I will end with a big Nyah Nyah Nyah [​IMG]
     

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