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Did John Kerry Cheat at the Debate?

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by KenH, Oct 3, 2004.

  1. dianetavegia

    dianetavegia Guest

    The rules for this debate, agreed upon by the candidates included this rule:

    Section 5, pages 4-5 of the binding "Memorandum of Understanding" that was negotiated and agreed upon by both political campaigns states:

    "No props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings or other tangible things may be brought into the debate by either candidate.... Each candidate must submit to the staff of the Commission prior to the debate all such paper and any pens or pencils with which a candidate may wish to take notes during the debate, and the staff or commission will place such paper, pens and pencils on the podium..."
     
  2. SpiritualMadMan

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    I understood that...

    But, in a *real* & non-staged Debate...

    Notes would have been expected...

    So, my premise is that mr. kerry simply couldn't break that habit and so broke the rules...

    Or, maybe, he couldn't trust his ever changing memory? :D

    Or, maybe it's the "team's" fault for not informing him???

    I'd *still* like to sell that bridge in Brookland. [​IMG]
     
  3. RockRambler

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    Kerry being a Brother in Christ...doesn't seem to stop the sniping at him either.
     
  4. Joseph_Botwinick

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    I don't consider Kerry a brother in Christ.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  5. RockRambler

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    Methodist=Brother In Christ

    Catholic= Heathen

    Is that the religiously-correct Baptist thinking???
     
  6. mioque

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    So.
    Ford, no.
    Nixon, no.
    Johnson, no.
    Kennedy, after he was murdered sure, but beforehand, no.
    Eisenhower, no.
    Truman?
     
  7. dianetavegia

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    Even the Bishops said to refuse him communion.

    I don't consider him a brother in Christ either.
     
  8. RockRambler

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    "Even the Bishops said to refuse him communion".

    Was that ALL Bishops or just a couple?
     
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    Yes, Diane, but what are they going to do about it now??? It's a week after the debate...history. Besides, I don't think it was a cheat sheet, and I'm backing Bush in this race. Even if it were a pen...so what? What could they possibly do now? There really would be no remedy.
     
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    Even the Bishops said to refuse him communion.

    I don't consider him a brother in Christ either.
    </font>[/QUOTE]He'd have to do a lot of being "proved" first. I'm not about to call him or Clinton my brother in Christ. The proof is in the pudding, and their pudding is more like "JELLO-INSTANT"...Instant Christianity to fit their needs.
     
  11. SpiritualMadMan

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    Anyone here ever here kerry confess Jesus as Lord?

    Or, publicly admit to a Faith in a Supreme, as in I am accountable to Him, being.
     
  12. Joseph_Botwinick

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    I don't even consider Bush to be a brother in Christ. I do think he is, however, a good president.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    Reagan, No. (Not even after his death).
     
  14. Daisy

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    Truman was before my time, but he was so expected to lose his bid for re-election that a paper famously heralded his loss (wrongly) the next day. I think he was not respected, because I've recently heard that new historians think he was "not that bad".

    Church Mouse Guy is old enough to remember....
     
  15. dianetavegia

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    On another thread, I wondered if Kerry pulled out a folded tissue to blot his face from the heat of the lights. I certainly am not a Kerry supporter in any sense of the word but think he's not stupid enough to pull out a 'cheat sheet' on t.v.!

    I wouldn't call Clinton a brother in Christ either, Baptist or no Baptist.

    RockRambler,

    Three Catholic Bishops Say No Communion for Pro-Abortion Politicians

    More Catholic Bishops: If You're Pro-Abortion, Skip Communion

    Bishop: Catholics Who Vote Pro-Abortion Shouldn't Get Communion


    You can read the full stories here:
    http://www.picosearch.com/cgi-bin/ts.pl
     
  16. KenH

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    Wow! I didn't know we had posters on the Baptist Board who are on the Heaven's Entrance Credentials Committee. [​IMG]
     
  17. RockRambler

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    diane, is that the official position of the Church? I thought just a few weeks ago that the Pope issued something contrary to what the bishop in Missouri was saying. I know in the local paper that one of the Bishops stated that he would have no problems giving communion to any Catholic politician.

    I just think one has to be careful in accepting Bush as a Brother in Christ, yet denying Kerry or Clinton the same. It comes off as partisan.
     
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    Mr. Bush has given a clear testimony of salvation. The other two haven't. Carter has given a clear testimony of salvation, where Reagan didn't. I'm not being partisan in that respect, nor am I, as KenH put it, Heavens Entrance Credentials Committee...LOL
     
  19. RockRambler

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    Clinton claims to be Baptist, Kerry claims to be Catholic, Bush claims to be Methodist...what's the difference? All have gotten their photo-ops going to church, so who are we to judge?

    However, as a former lobbyist, I looked around the North Carolina Legislative Bldg one afternoon, standing on the House floor and wondered, "If the rapture occurred right now, would any one in here be missing...or would we even know it happened"???
     
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    Claims are just that, RR...claims. The proof is in the life...and I don't see much proof in many of their lives.
     
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