Did Rice hurt her chances with evangelicals???

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Did Rice hurt her chances with evangelicals?

  1. No, it is her job as chief diplomat

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  2. Yes, as an evangelical I see better uses with my tax dollars

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  3. Neither, I would like to express an opinion

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  1. ASLANSPAL

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    <a href="http://www.kuna.net.kw/home/story.aspx?Language=en&DSNO=782032" target="_blank">Link
    Condi Rice honors Ramadan</a>


    Snippet: Rice hosts Iftaar for Muslims, praises Islam as religion of tolerance

    Snippet: Secretary of States Condoleezza Rice welcomed the guests to Benjamin Franklin Room, one of the state Department's most prestigious rooms, with "Ramadan Kareem" greetings, then asked the guests to sit for dinner and started tasting the soup, traditionally served as the first course of Iftaar to Muslims in many nations.
     
  2. Brother James

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    I don't believe she hurt here chances at all. Most evangelicals are so biblically ignorant they'll fall for anything. All she has to do is some soundbites about God, guns and gays and they'll line up like sheep to the slaughter.
     
  3. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Hurt her chances for what?

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  4. LadyEagle

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    Condi may end up being the "evangelical" pick (in spite of her abortion views) for running, but Hillary is our next president.

    As long as someone give lip service to God or says they've been "born again," they will get the evangelical vote. It is so predictable, which the politicians know very well.
     
  5. Bluefalcon

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    Hillary will never be president. Kerry didn't get any Southern States, and you think Hillary will do better than Kerry in the South? You've got to be kidding me. Luckily you can't win with California and New York alone.
     
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    Fine. Watch and see.
     
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    The one certainty is that a loyal one worlder will be the next president of the USA, put any face on em you like they'll still do the bidding of the elite and burn the people.

    Of course that's if Goerge Bush doesn't declare martial law and become America's dictator president before the next Diebold, ES&S election can be staged for our entertainment.
     
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    Hey, Lady Eagle. You know what's in the Dallas Morning News today?

    Horrified Conservatives have discovered that...

    GEORGE W. BUSH ISN'T A REAL CONSERVATIVE!

    They should have hired you last year. It would have saved them a lot of time and embarassment.
     
  9. Ben W

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    Where has it been said that she is a Christian? Maybe she is into Islam?
     
  10. Bluefalcon

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    She has black Baptist Southern roots from the heart of Mississippi or Alabama, can't remember which one.
     
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    LOL. [​IMG]
     
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    "An unflappable faith

    She calls herself "just an average Christian." But Condi Rice is as comfortable speaking publicly about her faith in God as she is about strategic arms reduction and routing out terrorism.

    As Stanford's first female, non-white, and (at 38) youngest provost, Rice found that her colleagues' skepticism about religious belief was at times challenging. But that was not a hindrance. In fact, she says defiantly, "I've been totally unflappable in my religious faith, and believe that it is the principal reason for all that I've been able to do. My faith in God is the most important thing. I never shied from telling people that I am a Christian, and I believe that's why I've been optimistic in my life."

    The Rev. Frank VanderZwan is a witness. "She never shrinks from her faith," gushes VanderZwan, an associate pastor at Menlo Park Presbyterian Church, which sits in the shadow of Stanford University. It is the church where Rice was an active member during her years in California.

    These days, when she is in town, Rice worships at National Presbyterian Church in Washington, D.C. She admits that being a person who takes her faith seriously elicits some cynicism from her peers in academia and in the Beltway."

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    "Drawn Back to Church

    Rice sparkled at Stanford, impressing everyone. She was young, stunningly attractive, and had a razor-sharp mind. But something even more important was happening. During these years, Rice says, God drew her back to the church.

    It began when the nearby Jerusalem Baptist Church started looking for some help. "We needed a piano player very badly," says longtime church member Dale Hamel, then president of the choir. Hamel charged his choir with finding a musician. He was pushing his shopping cart down the canned food lane at Lucky Supermarket when he ran into Rice.

    "We practically bumped into each other," says Hamel. "We stopped and started laughing, and I looked down at her fingers and saw that they were long and skinny. I said, 'Are you a musician?' And she said, 'Hey, how'd you know?' " Rice played for the church for six months, refusing to take any money.

    "That got me regularly back into churchgoing," she said in an August 2002 address to a Sunday school class at her home church, National Presbyterian in Washington, D.C. "I thought to myself, 'My goodness, God has a long reach.' I mean, in the Lucky Supermarket on a Sunday morning."

    But Rice yearned to return to her Presbyterian roots. One Sunday she visited Menlo Park Presbyterian Church in Palo Alto. "The minister that Sunday morning gave a sermon I will never quite forget," Rice said. "It was about the Prodigal Son from the point of view of the elder son. It set the elder son up not as somebody who had done all the right things but as somebody who had become so self-satisfied… . I started to think of myself as that elder son, who had never doubted the existence of the heavenly Father, but wasn't really walking in faith in an active way anymore. I started to become more active with the church, to go to Bible study, and to have a more active prayer life. It was a very important turning point in my life."

    During these years, she grieved her mother's death, helped her father work through his grief, talked him into moving to California, watched him remarry, and continued to stay involved in church and community activities—like raising money for an after-school center for underprivileged children in East Palo Alto."

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  13. Bluefalcon

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    What are Condi's abortion views? Just curious.
     
  14. KenH

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    If I recall correctly, the government should pretty much stay out of the issue except to restrict it in certain cases such as banning partial birth abortions and allowing parental notification laws, etc. And the government should in no way be funding abortion or encouraging it in any way.
     
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    I don't think so.
     
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    Probably her firm support for Affirmative Action is a problem, too.
     
  17. KenH

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    Not with me. We all know that merit is not the only criteria in any walk of life.
     
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    Rest of the interview is here

    Of course, if she decides to run for President, I imagine her public comments will change a tad.
     
  19. KenH

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    Parental notification, banning partial birth and late term abortions, no governmental funding of abortion - sounds right on to me. [​IMG]

    I have no disagreement with any of those positions.
     
  20. LadyEagle

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    Me, neither.

    But she also said this: "What I do think is that we should not have the federal government in a position where it is forcing its views on one side or the other."

    Doublespeak. Lukewarm. Spew material.
     

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