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Well, I can only present what I believe the Scriptures teach. I cannot do anything else.

 

There you stand...conscience bound to the Word of God! :laugh:

 

So he has "eternal life" BEFORE he/she "hears??" Yeah, that's what I been getting from Calvinists all along. Regenerated before "hearing" the "efficacious call." Really no urgency to get the gospel to them ---- "God's got it covered."

That's brilliant, Einstein! :laugh: How long did it take you to come up with that one??! Which is why free willers refer you back to SCRIPTURE and not back to Calvin!

Do you not realize that in Calvinism, you are a "mouse in a maze" trying to find your "cheese?" Yeah! See, the "blind alleys" are all illusory. "All," "whosoever," etc. -- they mean what they commonly mean, not what Cavlinism says! And the concepts like "total depravity," "unconditional election," etc. -- they're also NOT there in scripture. Does this not make you the least bit suspect of Calvinism??

So while you are running around in your "maze," we're eating your "cheese!!" :laugh:

What's so apparent about that?? No, you have to bring another false argument in -- the argument of God's will always done -- for this to even be seen! But scripture says otherwise, pinoy. Scripture says "Thy kingdom come Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven!" The only place where God's will is done is HEAVEN now, pinoy!

skypair

 

Wow! And YOU'RE in the "club?" Imagine how impressed I am!

Yeah, every Christian has a MINISTRY -- and apparently this isn't yours or you would show more "giftedness."

Yeah, but we're worried about your "calling." See, we don't believe it is "efficacious" without a decision on your part -- a "turning point" as David Jeremiah likes to title his ministry show.

See, as if on que you admit that a) you haven't chosen Christ and b) that you are in the process of "sanctifying salvation" (ain't no such thang, rip!)

skypair

 

Nah. This tells us the Paul knew of the Thessalonians election.

skypair

 

Right on!! Seems obvious, doesn't it.

skypair

 

I think your glasses need cleaning, TC. Or maybe that pompous hat fell down over them. :laugh:

God gave -- Jesus drew -- rich young ruler didn't come. You know, God gave all of creation to the Son and one day He will rule it. If the rich young ruler entered into that visible kingdom, you would have no problem with the rest of the story, would you.

skypair

 

Correction --- what he "understands" to be the word of God. It is actually quite different than scripture, BTW.

skypair

 

Is this the SP forum ? What's the matter my flighty friend ? Isn't it possible to put all your ideas on one posting ?

To answer a silly question ( which I don't often do because of how absurd your queries are ) Yes , I am enrolled in a special club -- it's called the Lamb's Book of Life . The elect ( having nothing to do with service ) were registered there before the foundation of the world . Are you a member ?

 

This board is getting really weird! People are getting off on these "Yes it is -- No it isn't" arguments with little or no scripture and just basically pummeling each other out of ignorance. I guess rather than post as I get to them, I ought to start a thread when I get to a post worth answering, eh? Cause if not, my posts are sure to get "buried" by noon and questions or issues go unanswered and forgotten.

Anyway, great club. Hope you got a "oily" membership card to show when you get there. We were told we had to ask for one -- or better, open the door ourselves when Jesus knocks, Rev 3:20. We're pretty sure that's a sign He isn't going to break down the door or open it for us.

skypair

 

Yes sir I am, knowing my election.

 

Hey there Mr. Ps. You said : "God's foreknowledge is anothing [sic] thing [sic] they just dismiss." Well no siree ! Since when have Calvinists dismissed foreknowledge ? You need to do some homework there Buddy . Canvass old threads here --- do some investigative work beyond the confines of the BB also . Of course our definition differs from your meaning of the word . We believe God is really God . He sets His love on the ones of His choosing . He determined before the world's formation who would be saved . And , Christ , accordingly , died specifically for them . He did not die "for" those whose destiny is the Lake of Fire . His sacrifice was not on behalf of those who always will remain under the wrath of God .

 

Oh lucky you.............

 

Luck has nothing to do with Divine election BB .

 

Let me just get this straight one at a time

rippon, RB, etc. ---- Did YOU answer the door when Christ knocked (Rev 3:20)? Did you receive Him into your "house?"

Or did Jesus bust down your door? Or is He knocking still??

You may be eating at His communion table but are you "supping" with Christ? If you are supping with Him, how come so much of His "food" seems to be out of your reach?? Things like "why God chose whom He chose to salvation?" Things like "knowing how sin entered into the world." Things like "what distinguishes the spirit from the soul?"

Why do you act like "servants" doing what God commands (evangelism, for instance) not comprehending what the "Master's" mind is and what His "friends" and "brethren" are telling you, John 15:15??

skypair

 

The Lord bless you a 1000 times more as much as you have in your life now.
amen