I drove by a sign the other day that said "Choice not Chance Determines Your Destiny." I found this to be filled with potential for discussion on our board. Do you have a choice in achieving your destiny? If it is a destiny then how does choice enter into it? Does chance not play a role in acheiving your destiny? Life is full of choices and a full life is the sum of all the choices you make. What appears to be a matrix of endless potential ends up being a direct path toward your eventual end. If you look back on your life from the end you will see how you got there. Using this type of thinking some on this board suggest that God simply elects those who end up believing in the end. I have referred to this type of thinking as reverse engineering. I want to allow for the free moral agency of man, but somethings go beyond man's ability to chose. Man cannot decide to quit sinning for instance. Man is dead in his sin. How can a man who is dead regain vitality and reverse course of his own free will? I would argue he cannot. I take issue with this notion of free will and not the idea that man must believe in order to be saved or that man is coerced by God. God does not coerce man but man is unable apart from God to believe in faith. The question then becomes does a Christian believe in order to receive election or because they were predestined to election? Further, hypothetically, could God have chosen to save all men? If so, why didn't he? If not, why couldn't he?