Do reformed baptists see themeselves as being Primarily Baptist or Reformed?

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  1. Yeshua1

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    Know that the most important label is to be christian, but past that...

    Do reformed see themselves as being Christian reformed who happen to be Baptists, or baptists who happen to be reformed also?
     
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    I see myself as a Christian who believes Reformed Baptist distinctives are more accurate in belief and practice.
     
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    First we see Jesus as Lord and Saviour. The Spirit is given to us;
    9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

    10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

    11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

    12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

    13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.


    When someone studies the scripture they will come to see these things as the Spirit allows them to_Once they do see it....they never forget it or leave it...but grow in grace and knowledge....

    I believe this is exactly what peter had in mind about Paul's writings....and those who ....WREST.... the scripture....[put it on a torture rack} like you see done on BB daily...with novelties and foolish ideas in vain trying to deny Pauls writings...

    They are baptists who look at all the other views and no longer see those watered down ideas taught as they come to understand scripture more clearly.

    They are baptists who can see what other denominations offer...keep what they teach that is solid...but are baptistic in terms of the church and the covenants.:thumbs:
     
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    So would you see yourself in agreement more doctrines wise with presby then with other non reformed baptists though?
     
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    LOL..... Thats a good question. :applause: They do appear to emulate Presbyterians to a large degree dont they..... with the exception of Baptism & Ordinances, Adapting the Westminster Confessions to their 1689 Confessions they are indeed very much alike..... But you cant find as many of their churches as you can Conservative Presbyterian, but then again, thats part of their "Come Hither" MYSTIQUE. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Icon has a better answer than this, but from my perspective, reformed and Baptist doctrine are part of a whole picture that reflects Scripture. If one tries to isolate the element of Reformed, remember, there are many and major differences between a Reformed denomination (Presbyterian) and us. These have been discussed in depth in many threads.

    I still say the second most accurate denomination next to Baptist is conservative Presbyterian, but make no mistake about it, there are many differences that most on this board have just read about in theory and not lived.
     
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    My view is that many who are of the reformed baptist persusion see themselves as being reformed first, and then baptist, and that if the presby church ever adopted adult believers baptism, would go right back!
     
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    Outside of baptism and ecclesiology I have more in common with Reformed Presbyterians than I do mainline Baptists.
     
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    is that due to their use of similiar Confessions of faith, and having a "high' calvinistic view?
     
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    OK...

    Reformed whom exactly? If Reformed 'Baptist' then what is your argument? It all seems mundane and redundant because it actually is.

    More redundancy bro.

    Your threads seem malformed, negligent, premature, for quantities sake and not for qualities sake.

    Just saying.
     
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    To go back...would mean they were there to begin with.Let me ask you...is all Presbyterians repented and became Baptists.....what would stop you from going there?
     
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    I will say this for you, it takes a lot of nerve telling someone that coming from the content of your average post. Just saying, "preacher."
     
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    Well, both are confessional; Presbyterians confessing the Westminster Confession of Faith and most Reformed Baptists confessing the 1689 Second London Baptist Confession of Faith. There are some Reformed Baptists who confess the earlier 1644 London Baptist Confession. As far as a "high" Calvinistic view, I am not sure what you mean by that. I am a Calvinist. I do not consider myself a high or low Calvinist.
     
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    It takes super gall for you to say that Mr. Deacon. Judging from your posting history of nearly seven years you have no room to be a critic. And lies do not adorn your "ministry."
     
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    Just stating that to me, it appears at times that reformed baptists would see themselves as being in a seperate category from other baptists, more akin to be presby baptists...

    NOT saying that is wrong, just my opinion....
     
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    Most Baptists do not understand the relationship of the law and the gospel...or the covenants. Reformed Baptists see the importance of these things and how it is essential to a right understanding and presentation of the gospel.
     
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    I should have been more specific regarding that, as meant many would hold to a Supra viewpoint regrading the decrees of God...
     
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    their use of the confessions, and their views on eschatology, and the relationship between isreal and the church!
     
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    ..................
     
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    I believe you would benefit from all of the above:laugh::wavey:
     
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