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Do You Feel Better Off?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Apr 23, 2008.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    I don't feel as well off as when the First Clinton was President. I got some good pay raises when Clinton was around, the economy was sound, I was eight years younger than now -- it was a good season.
     
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    I don't look to political leaders to bolster my well-being. As for pay raises and career advancement, I got good raises and advanced a lot in the Clinton years, got even better raises in the W. years, but I attribute none of my success or lack thereof to either.
     
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    "well off"

    Some of the poorest in possessions are the richest in what matters to God. Maybe a depression would do this country some spiritual good!

    How have you been KenH? Have you missed me?

    I have been over on the doctrinal debate forum trying to help the folks there feel secure in Christ. Some there are afraid Christ will leave them if they are not perfect.

    God bless! :thumbs:

    ps, Once born of God, always a child of God!:godisgood:
     
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    During the Clinton administration I was in an extremely abusive marriage, and facing life threatening abuse on a regular basis.

    I was an intelligent woman, yet trapped in ultra-conservative, legalistic fundamentalism which would not allow me to think or feel for myself.

    Today, I am a struggling single parent who can barely pay the bills. I have left the legalism, I have found grace, I am safe and will never be abused again.


    Uh...you bet I am better off! :godisgood:
     
  6. Daniel1654

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    This is just my opinion, but to post a political ad in favor of one party over another is in danger of separating Christians even more than we already do.
    Isn't it enough that doctrine in Gods word does enough damage to the Church, we have to throw choices in political parties into the mix.
    When you get into that voting booth, it is to be a secret ballot. Just you and God know who you support. (I guess so we can repent later).
    Today we display who we are supporting with banners in our front yards and with our voices to our friends and neighbors and yet some of the same people will refuse you to wear a gold cross around your neck.
    We should have the same zeal to spread the word of God.
    :jesus:
     
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    There is also more to it than what meets the eye. This is a political ad after all.

    "The Democratic Party has an ad airing currently on cable which features an excerpt from a January Republican Primary debate. The ad shows Senator McCain answering the question "are Americans better off than they were eight years ago," by saying "you could argue that Americans overall are better off." It also features imagery of foreclosures, high gas prices, and other cheery signs of being better off. As is often the case with Senator McCain, full excerpting provides a more accurate view. "

    http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/04/21/mccain-better-off-compared-to-november/
     
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    Well said. I don't credit or blame presidents with my own successes/failures.
     
  9. KenH

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    I am doing quite well, steaver. How are you? Glad to have you back in the political furball here. :)
     
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    Am I better off now than I was 8 years ago? Yes, but that has to do with the work I have done and not with the government. I don't look to the government to make me happy or successful.
     
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    Overall much better off dollar wise due to the Lord's blessing, but under Bush my job was farmed out to a company using illegal labor.

    We are a lot less better off than we would have been if the economy hadn't gone south but then the Lord knew that too :thumbs:

    As an aside, I was always told that to build an economy you need to go to war to bring money into the mix. Wha happened this time :laugh:
     
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    Because I work in the oil valve industry, I am doing alright. My biggest complaint is that the country, as a whole, is not doing good under Bush's regime. His ungodly war in Iraq is the largest part of the problem that contributes to this fact.
     
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    I'm very well. Not much interest right now in the political for me. It looks like a McCain/Obama show down.

    I will praise God for either man who wins! However, i will not yoke myself with any pro-murder candidate by casting to them my vote of support.

    AMEN! :thumbs:
     
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    Actually congress oked this war and has allowed it to continue. Let's give credit were credit is due!

    God Bless! :thumbs:
     
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    On the flip side, I'd have to say , no.

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    but that has to do with the work I have done and not with the government. I don't look to the government to make me happy or successful."

    Thanks for saying it so well.:thumbs:
     
  16. Ed Edwards

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    I'd rather fight his ungodly war in Iraq than fight his ungodly war in Oklahoma. BTW, Oklahoma is a net exporter of crude oil, oil products, and oil by products.
     
  17. Ed Edwards

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    Nobody is taking the war serious. We spend more on abortions than on war in Iraq.

    We kill more unborns every day than American Military have died in Iraq TOTAL.
     
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    Don't the Iraqis count as human beings too?
     
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    Yea right Ed, if we weren't in Iraq, all those Iraqis would flock to Oklahoma to wage war. :laugh:
     
  20. Ed Edwards

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    //BTW, Oklahoma is a net exporter of crude oil, oil products, and oil by products.//

    If the USofA don't get oil from Iraq, they will get it from Oklahoma (cause Oklahoma has it). Hello, are they going to pay for it?
     
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