Doctors Support Universal Healthcare

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - More than half of U.S. doctors now favor switching to a national health care plan and fewer than a third oppose the idea, according to a survey published on Monday.

    "As doctors, we find that our patients suffer because of increasing deductibles, co-payments, and restrictions on patient care," said Dr. Ronald Ackermann, who worked on the study with Carroll. "More and more, physicians are turning to national health insurance as a solution to this problem."

    http://www.news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080331/us_nm/healthcare_usa_doctors_dc
     
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    I suppose most Teamsters support a universal garbage collection plan. <G>
     
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    I'm sure if they spoke to the doctors who are in the countries with universal health care, they might sing a different tune.
     
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    CTB, I read back a few years ago, the Czech doctors were leaving your country by the thousands, due to gov't installed salary caps. Has that trend abated ?
     
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    This type of "survey" is worse than useless.

    The story lead line should have said:

    More than half of U.S. doctors who bothered to respond now favor switching to a national health care plan...
     
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    And why would the portion of doctors who did not bother to respond to the poll have a different ratio? Are those who dislike polls less likely to support universal health care?
     
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    Actually, GD, many who are either not concerned one way or another will probably not respond. Many who might respond conditionally pro or con don't see their postion clearly represented in the survey and so wont respond. Those who feel strongly are most likely to respond... and of those .... those who see their response as an action for change are more likely to respond than those who are dissatified with the current system but don't support the choices in the poll.

    [BTW, Gold Dragon, ....... is it true that the people in Queensland have essentially lost all rights to land including rights of inheritance? ....Sorry that this is not re: OP]:wavey:
     
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    There were two choices, support or oppose national health insurance. Those who were dissatisfied with the current system but didn't support national health insurance would pick oppose.

    I'm a Canadian who has been living in Sydney for the last year. I subscribe to a national newspaper and have not heard about any changes to land rights in Queensland.
     
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    Interestingly there is a Canadian Clinic near the seminary and they seem to be doing very well. There is another clinic nearby and the dentist is from Spain, and they seem to be doing very well. Many people travel here and to Hungary from other countries because the health care is so good here, and the prices are much lower for those paying cash.

    For instance, my wife injured her foot and had to go to the hospital for x-raying and consulting a doctor. The total cost was $50.00 US, and no there was no insurance on this one. I am currently having a tooth guard made. Back in the States I was told the cost would be a minimum of $2000.00. Here it is costing me, and again no insurance, $450.00.

    The US has good health care for those who have insurance or can afford it. But it is a poor system for those who can't. The person with no insurance in the U S pays much more for everything than the insurance company pays. In essence the uninsured are paying part of the freight load for the insured.

    Have you seen how much doctors bill and how much Medicare and medigap companies actually pay. The uninsured, who are not old enough for Medicare, have to pay what is billed. It is not a fair system.
     
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    This poll is only ridiculous if one doesn't like universal health care.
     
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    Don't give me that. The U.S. spends about $10 Billion a year on health care for illegals. That's a well known fact.
     
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    It's a survey, not a poll.


    Surveys of this kind are useless.
     
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    It's not a "poll".

    It's useless.
     
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    Or knows several doctors, all of whom strongly oppose Universal Health Care.
     
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    Which kind is that? The ones that ask people whether they support or oppose something and then report the results?
     
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    Surveys of this kind are useless as they're only a supposition dependant on the willingness of those to respond. There is no way of knowing for sure the leanings of those who refused to participate .......unless you're Clara Voiant....

    Now.....if you make a poll or survey compulsory....you might have a point. But there are many intelligent and busy people who think deeper than surveys.... and know that most surveys (and polls) are designed towards a particular persuasion.

    Then again, isn't it presumptive that we believe the percentages cited are truthful?????? Who recorded the survey? Who audited them during the survey? Who or how can a 'recount' be done to confirm the accuracy? How was it determined that all responders were qualified to respond in accordance to the terms underwhich the survey is reported?
     
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    Thanks for explaining what should easily be apparent to the average person.:thumbs:

    I wouldn't have bothered.
     
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    Never believe what does not agree with what you already believe.:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
     
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    I see. So if the same survey said that more doctors oppose national health insurance, it would still be useless in your eyes, right?
     
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    Absolutely.
     
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