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  1. gekko

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    hey everybody. you all probably know i love rap/hip-hop music by now. so i'm wondering: who on this baptist board DOES like rap/hip-hop, hip/rock/soul type of music? there's probably a select few. but i'm just asking. if you do, who is your favorite group? if "maybe", who is the best you've heard, from what you've heard? if not. WHY NOT?! i'll let people respond, then i'll get in there.

    God Bless.
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  2. Joseph_Botwinick

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    As far as rap goes, absolutely not. It glorifies the thug lifestyle, and the "music" stinks.

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    Is Hip-Hop and Rap the same?
     
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    Hip-hop, soul, rock, rap, etc. doesn't exactly sream Christianity to me. Would Jesus listen to that type of music? I don't think so.
     
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    Just curious, What kind of style of music would be accetpable?
     
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    Love soul music. Hate rap.

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    In my opinion the type of music that a Christian should listen to is southern gospel or hymns. Southern Gospel in my opinion are songs like Hallejuah Square, I'll Fly Away, People Need The Lord, Please Search the Book Again, etc. Hymns like Victory in Jesus, Washed in the Blood, What a Day That Will Be, etc. That is the kind of music I listen to all the time. They have CDs out there that have the type of music I just mentioned on the internet, but you have to search for it (hate that part). A good thing to do would be to find a website that has songs that you can download. Other websites are online radio stations that my dad and I listent to.
     
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    What if Christians like other kinds of music?

    What if an artist does one of those songs in style other than SG?

    Have you tried live365.com?

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    I love Southern Gospel music, but I sure don't want to listen to just that kind of music all the time.
     
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    ok, so i've read the replies. and now i well reply. Joseph, what IS the thug lifestyle? murder, mayhem, sex and drugs? i would agree with that... only for non-christian hip-hop/rap. for christian hip-hop. no. it does not represent the "thug lifestyle" many people stereotype rap/hip-hop. listen to Ill Harmonics, DJ Maj, L.A. Symphony, even some of 4thavejones. Crossmovement even. 50shekel (who infact is thinking of changing his alias because it is much too close to 50cent, who IS thug-ish.) there are many christian hip-hop artists out there that do NOT agree with the thug life. read the lyrics. secondly, hip-hop and rap are somewhat the same, somewhat different. rap is more straight deep from the downtown ghetto. more sounding like "thugs." I personally would say there is not much of a difference. Crossmovement classifies themselves as hip-hop. Clean1... would Jesus listen to Rock? would He even listen to Southern Gospel? would He be living in a house with all this materialistic stuff? i would tend to think not. yes, i do love that style of music, southern gospel that is. you say that hip-hop, rap and all that does not seem like christianity? Crossmovement is currently going around to different cities with their "Why Hip-Hop?" release. telling people that it's not for money, fame, or materialistic goods. but their albums are meant to reach out to the lost who listen to hip-hop. they're representing Jesus Christ instead of the Thug lifestyle. (which they sing against in some of their songs, namely "It's Going Down" on the Holy Culture album) like i said before, most think that rap/hip-hop could never be christian because they stereotype it. look into Gotee.com. (gotee records, has some great bands. and gotee records i believe was started by Toby Mac. correct me please if i'm wrong.) look into the different christian hip-hop/rap artists. if you don't think there is such a thing. well, that's your opinion. it's just another way to reach the lost in a way southern gospel music could not. i do agree with ccrobinson, i like southern gospel music, i just don't listen to it as much as other types, because what i've got in my crib is helping me to grow in my faith towards the Lord. no it is not the main thing in my life. Jesus is my hero. (just as 50shekel says. 50shekel's homepage i read the lyrics to most, if not all of the christian hip-hop/rap artists albums and i say, how could this NOT be christian?

    hope this all makes sense. God Bless.
    gekko.
     
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    gekko, Can you provide us with some lyrics?
    Rap does sound like bad attitude stuff so I usually turn it off It's like yelling in somebodys face saying "HAVE A NICE DAY", It lacks the the appropiate attitude and sincerity.
     
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    J-Train
    DJ Maj. feat. toby mac & kirk franklin

    Intro

    yo me up in my microphone so i can bless god’s people
    you know toby mac and kirk franklin on this gospel train
    on the j train aint nothin’ but a thang
    lift up your hands aint nothing if you wanna get on board baby baby
    yeah this is a dj maj exclusive right here baby this how we do it mlinneyum check it

    chorus

    all my people wanna ride say – wanna ride on the the j train (it’s the j train)
    you got your ticket in your hand say – wanna ride on the j train (destination)
    all my people wanna ride say - wanna ride on the the j train (it’s the j train)
    wanna ride on the j train – i gotta ticket to ride on the other side
    just grab that ticket come on and take a ride
    just grab that ticket if you don’t know now you know toby

    verse 1

    sit back relax put on your traveling gear
    no need to doubt so put a side your fear
    destination out of this atmosphere it’s the j train baby we depart from right here
    no lines to fight no ticket to price i’m rollin’ first class cause i’ve seen the light
    try as you may but your money can’t buy or take on the j line to the other side

    chorus

    all my people wanna ride say – wanna ride on the the j train (it’s the j train)
    you got your ticket in your hand say – wanna ride on the j train (destination)
    all my people wanna ride say - wanna ride on the the j train (it’s the j train)
    wanna ride on the j train – i gotta ticket to ride on the other side
    just grab that ticket come on and take a ride
    just grab that ticket come on and take a ride to the other side

    verse 2

    now i missed the train more than once in my life
    till the good conductor heard my momma’s cry
    hades to glory in the blink of an eye
    hear me now hear me now while i testify
    heard the the whistle blow i felt a chill to the bone (woop)
    is what i heard and now I’m headed for home
    had a reclinable seat but i just had to stand
    for the j all the way to the promise land

    chorus


    all my people wanna ride say – wanna ride on the the j train (it’s the j train)
    you got your ticket in your hand say – wanna ride on the j train (destination)
    all my people wanna ride say - wanna ride on the the j train (it’s the j train)
    wanna ride on the j train – i gotta ticket to ride on the other side
    just grab that ticket come on and take a ride
    just grab that ticket come on and take a ride to the other side


    Bridge

    this the break down right here
    this for everyone that been wash in the blood
    and you’re not ashamed to praise his name
    i’m talking to the people in the back trying to get get high
    put that weed down playa’
    just grab that ticket come on and take a ride to the other side

    chorus
     
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    here's another: i post it as a link only because when copy and paste occurs, it messes up for some reason.

    Cross Movement - Forever

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    Everytime I hear rap music, I keep waiting for the drive by shootings to start.

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    1. You did not ask about "Christian" rap. Therefore, I responded to rap in general.

    2. I would rather not listen to any rap as I think it pretty much stinks. Not my style.
     
  16. gekko

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    i am sorry i did not refer to christian rap in the first place. i will rephrase that i love christian rap/hip-hop. thanks for pointing that out Joseph.
    God Bless.
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    Sounds like the performer is more caught up in glorifying themselves over God.
     
  19. gekko

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    which performer Rocko?
     
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    if you are talking about KJ-52... uh, have you read his other songs? especially from his newest album? (came out in feb.) it's hard to find the new lyrics. so i posted this one. and what's so selfish about:

    1, 2, 3 follow after he Christ is the Son of the Almighty

    tell all the people salvation is free
    read about it in the Bible tell you about a friend for free
    he's the way the truth the life and also the key
    enter into the paradise and all his glory (Man!)
    the Savior will come once again

    ???

    if you're refering to Crossmovement, what is so selfish about:

    More than your strife, more than your pain
    ‘Cause to live is Christ and to die is gain
    So what it matter when
    “We’re gonna live forever!”

    So if I’m hit by a car,
    or taken out by disease,
    you ain’t got enough bullets in your gun
    Man, please!
    “We’re gonna live forever!”

    ???

    or DJ Maj's J-train? Jesus Train. that's what it is. the ticket is salvation. what is selfish 'bout that?

    all rap/hip-hop artists use numerous amounts of symbols/metaphors/similies. not everything is taken literally.


    hope it makes sense.
    gekko.
     

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