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Does Bible say that Gospel requires Creationism?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by BobRyan, Feb 7, 2008.

  1. donnA

    donnA Active Member

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    Why do you insist on calling God a liar?
     
  2. Danny Hurley

    Danny Hurley New Member

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    1 JOHN 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son 10: He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself; he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his son. 11. and this is, the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this is iin his Son.
     
  3. BobRyan

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    All of it.

    It is Apocalyptic literature. Genesis is not. Colossians is not. John 1 is not. LAW is not apocalyptic. The Ten commandments are not apocalyptic or symbolic. "FOR IN SIX days the Lord MADE the heavens and the earth the sea and all that is in them".

    All your dancing around on this is not helping your case at all because "the facts remain" that you keep trying to duck.

    Apocalyptic literature uses symbols "at times" so you can not discount all of it as "symbol" neither can you mindlessly assume "there are no symbols in apocalyptic literature".

    There are rules - for example in Rev 12 we are told specifically in the chapter that the "dragon" described there is in fact "satan" and that he is also the "serpent of old" the serpent in the garden of Eden.

    In Rev 17 we are told that the symbol of waters "represents tribes and people, nations and languages".

    In Dan 8 we are told that the Ram represents the kingdom of the Medes and the Persians and the Goat represents the kingdom of Greece.

    Your notion that "you get to make up anything you want when you read the Bible so that it fits eovlutionsm no matter what the text actually says" is dead wrong.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
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    That is a false accusation, [edit]. If not, cite where I made such a quote-- you did put quotation marks around that statement and attributed it to me.

    And you refused to answer Yes or No to my question; the obvious conclusion already referred to.

    [Please refrain from name-calling
    DHK]
     
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    (Logically) The entire OT can be true while at the same time the entire NT is fiction.
     
  7. donnA

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    Personal attack,
     
  8. Alcott

    Alcott Well-Known Member
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    Yes, lying about someone and making up a quote that person did not make is a personal attack.
     
  9. Revmitchell

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    Did you attend the NBC?

    The Bible is about Christ.

    Luke 24:27 Then beginning with Moses and with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures.
    44 Now He said to them, "These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled."

    Christ created all things.

    Col 1:16 - For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created through Him and for Him.
    The Genesis account of creation is accurate as validated by Christ. To say scripture is about anything other than Christ is to spue more BGCT false gospels.
     
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    The creeation account is not a parable.
     
  11. Alcott

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    Yeah. So?
     
  12. donnA

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    Which means it is 100% true. And opinons saying otherwise are 100% false.
    I'll take God's word on it over man's anyday.

    God is the creator, of all things, to say otherwise is a distortion of who He is.
     
  13. EdSutton

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    FTR, the account of the rich man and Lazarus in Lk. 16 is not identified as a parable.

    Ed
     
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    Hey Alcott,

    I like shrimp and chardonnay, but I am starting to wonder if I could enjoy it with you.:confused:

    "That is a false accusation, you liar"
    "Yeah. So?"
    "If you're a coward, you will paste a lot more of your junk."


    Your not playing very nicely.:mad:

    What exactly are you trying to get at about this subject?
     
  16. EdSutton

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    I'll opine on this question. The answer is "No!", currently. But they will be in the future, as this is, I believe, future and refers to a time during the tribulation period that is yet to happen during the time of the Anti-Christ, when this actually will occur.

    Is the attitude portrayed in this last part really necessary?

    Ed
     
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    Why make reference to a parable in order to define the literalness of the creation account?
     
  18. Magnetic Poles

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    John 3:16, BB Version: For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believes in him, and in a young earth and special creation, and doesn't drink any alcohol, and opposes all abortion, and anything else we can add, shall have everlasting life.
     
  19. donnA

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    Mock the truth of scripture if you must, they are still true.
     
  20. Magnetic Poles

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    Not mocking...just pointing out how many on this board would add to scripture.
     
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