From Acts 13:22 22 And when he had removed him, he raised up David to be their king; to whom also he bare witness and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after My heart, who shall do all My will. And from 1 Samuel 16:7-11 The Lord said to Samuel, “How long will you mourn for Saul, since I have rejected him as king over Israel? Fill your horn with oil and be on your way; I am sending you to Jesse of Bethlehem. I have chosen one of his sons to be king.” 2 But Samuel said, “How can I go? If Saul hears about it, he will kill me.” The Lord said, “Take a heifer with you and say, ‘I have come to sacrifice to the Lord.’ 3 Invite Jesse to the sacrifice, and I will show you what to do. You are to anoint for me the one I indicate.” 4 Samuel did what the Lord said. When he arrived at Bethlehem, the elders of the town trembled when they met him. They asked, “Do you come in peace?” 5 Samuel replied, “Yes, in peace; I have come to sacrifice to the Lord. Consecrate yourselves and come to the sacrifice with me.” Then he consecrated Jesse and his sons and invited them to the sacrifice. 6 When they arrived, Samuel saw Eliab and thought, “Surely the Lord’s anointed stands here before the Lord.” 7 But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The Lord does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.” 8 Then Jesse called Abinadab and had him pass in front of Samuel. But Samuel said, “The Lord has not chosen this one either.” 9 Jesse then had Shammah pass by, but Samuel said, “Nor has the Lord chosen this one.” 10 Jesse had seven of his sons pass before Samuel, but Samuel said to him, “The Lord has not chosen these.” 11 So he asked Jesse, “Are these all the sons you have?” “There is still the youngest,” Jesse answered. “He is tending the sheep.” Samuel said, “Send for him; we will not sit down until he arrives.” 12 So he sent for him and had him brought in. He was glowing with health and had a fine appearance and handsome features. Then the Lord said, “Rise and anoint him; this is the one.” 13 So Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the presence of his brothers, and from that day on the Spirit of the Lord came powerfully upon David. Samuel then went to Ramah. On this board, we are constantly debating election vs free will, and search out that line between saved and lost. David is a fascinating figure that paints a clear picture to both. Here is a man obviously chosen by God to salvation, but yet, he committed murder and adultery, plus disobeyed the Lord on several occasions. From Psalms 119:164 Seven times a day I praise you for your righteous laws. To me, it is obvious from these verses, that God not only chose David to salvation, His hand was on him his entire life. David was set apart. Yet, David committed some of the most evil acts known to man. So that begs the question, are most people that murder and commit adultery saved? And if not, what is the difference? The difference between eternal life and death. As we read story after story about David, and the Psalms, we can see God's hand in every aspect of his life. David did not choose God, by some residual faith. God clearly states He chose David. So, the difference is election. I would be the first to say that on the surface, those sins appear like that of a lost person. In fact, how many lost people ever had someone murdered to take away their wife? Not many in the scheme of things. The fact is, without the Lord is without the Lord. That shows many things. One is outward appearance, especially over an instant in time, does not reveal to you someone else's spiritual state. Even over time, one is just making an intelligent guess. As Icon has said many times, a Christian's sin does not dominate. It appears on occasion, but the trip back to the Lord is swift and sometimes harsh. Any comments? Oh yes, I have one. Those of us on this board who are Christians, do we praise God seven times a day?