Does it really matter if you're a Calvinist?

Strange, since I've been there and back. Maybe the next time it will be REALLY true, right?

Based on this steaming pile...you have no clue what I believe and are ignorant to the non reformed position as a whole.

...and you can remain in your error for as long as you wish, just "because".

 

Based on the OP it has nothing to do with it...haven't you been following along? Mere Aaron diversion tactics.

 

God will have mercy upon whom He will have mercy. Take it up with Him.

 

This proves you've never been there.

 

I did address it.

 

...he Calvinist is the man who is determined that his intellect, and heart, and will shall remain on their knees continually, and only from this attitude think, and feel, and act. Calvinism is, therefore, that type of thought in which there comes to its rights the truly religious attitude of utter dependence on God and humble trust in his mercy alone for salvation. BB Warfield

 

"He who is altogether and only a Calvinist probably only knows half the Truth of God, but he who is willing to take the other side, as far as it is true, and to believe all he finds in the Word of God, will get the whole pearl." —Charles Spurgeon, "Buying the Truth"

 

You are saying that anyone who does not accept Calvinism is believing a lie.

You are also calling non-Cals unbelievers. Those who love darkness are those who love their sin too much to let it go and come to Christ for salvation. You are calling non-Cals unsaved.

Is that how your really feel?

 

Guys, cut the foolishness.

The original question was whether or not it mattered that one believed something that wasn't true. The answer is obvious. Of course it matters, especially given the weight that God gives to truth (the weight of Himself), and His abhorrence of untruth, and His disdain for ignorance.

Then the question turned to WHY one would WANT to believe an untruth, and there can be only one answer. Sin. Men love darkness rather than light, because their deeds are evil. There is not one man exempt from that condition. To say otherwise is to say you have no sin. (And herein is a cardinal difference between Calvinists and Noncalvinists. Noncalvinists do not believe the love of darkness is in them.)

Now, nowhere did I say that a Noncalvinist is necessarily unsaved. BUT, he is saved despite his Arminianism, not because of it, and some carry their error to the grave. But it is error, and more die in their sin because of it than are saved despite it. It is NOT the Gospel of Christ.

 

Well, I guess that just settles it then. We can now claim and end to the 400 year old debate.

 

It's a Person who saves, not a doctrine. And He will save and save powerfully and fully and eternally. Nothing will separate the elect from the love of God. That's true.

But God hates lies, and liars will not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. So to answer the question, "Does it matter?" Oh, it matters.

You're talking like those that Paul condemned for saying we should sin that grace may abound.

That's right. You're powerless to enlighten yourself.

That's just the way it is, isn't? Some are born blind, some are born eunuchs, some are ugly, some are pretty, some healthy, some are sick, some are rich, some are poor, some have this gift or that gift, and there isn't a one of them that chose it.

Are you starting to feel helpless yet? You may not be far from the Kingdom yourself.

 

There's a lot of people that would say you're saved despite your calvinism, or your saved despite your free will beliefs. I think that's foolishness. You are saved despite our human nature to sin. Not because of some doctrine. I get it, doctrine is extremely important to some people, if so then great. Also I understand that some could care less about doctrine, if so then great. Myself, I'm somewhere in the middle, I'm 25 years old, I'm still discovering things every day. I don't have the wisdom and knowledge a lot of people do on here because they've been studying longer then I've been alive. In my youthfulness I do know without a doubt that salvation is the most important thing in your life. I do not believe TULIP nor anything a freewiller believes denies anyone salvation that wants salvation. I think we all understand that without God's love and grace we would be nothing.

 

At least he was obeying the scripture.

For a good rebuttal to some of the errors of Calvinism, listen to Dr. Chuck Missler series entitled, "The Sovereignty of Man," it can be found at Koinonia House.com looking under the 60/40 tab. Very enlightening!

 

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Aaron,
On Page 3, you indicate that those that align with Arminius are believing a lie. What lie?

I think you may have identified it around page 4 or 5, when you talked about people believing that they are born in the light, rather than with a sin nature; but Arminius denied Pelagius' teaching of "man is basically good," and was in agreement that man is born with a sin nature.

If that's not the lie you were referencing, would you please clarify?

 

I believe that most if not all Calvinists would agree with that statement.