Does Satan support a political party?

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  1. ajg1959

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    Does he support abortion?

    Does he support gay marriage?

    Does he support removing prayer from our schools?

    Does he support the teaching of evolution to our children?

    Just what political party do you think Satan supports?

    I am going to figure out how to do a poll on here and start one.

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    Yep. And our enemies want Obama to win, too. That should speak volumes.
     
  3. Doubting Thomas

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    Does he support one unjust, aggressive "preventive" war after another, in which tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of civilians are killed as "collateral damage"?

    Personally, I imagine Satan has his tentacles in BOTH major parties.

    God help us.
     
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    Yup - I agree. There is no godly major US party
     
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    Here we go, someone once again throws out the total of "tens of thousands civilians" killed during this war. Can someone, ANYONE show me any kind of proof supporting this statement?

    Where is documentation that the U.S. has killed tens of thousands innocents? Before anyone goes off I know the post just says they were killed and not who killed them, but the post suggest that the U.S. is responsible for all these deaths, and as far as I can find this is completly false.
     
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    Your idea of a "preventive war" is a matter of opinion. Even God has ordered the murder of "every living creature", man, woman, child and even livestock during the time of war. But God never ordered the killing of unborn babies or the ordination of gay marriage. In fact, didnt God bless the folks who helped to actuallly save babies? Or, did He only do it to save special babies....like Moses and Jesus? I dont think so...I think ALL babies are precious to God and that if you support killing them, then you are going to have to answer for it to Him.

    Your 'opinion" of the war in Iraq has no bearing on biblical principle, it is merely your opinion.....mine is different. But biblical principle does pertain to some of the major party differences in the current election.

    I choose to base my vote and the hope on our country on biblical principle without compromise.

    I serve only one master.....you can serve whichever master you choose.

    AJ
     
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    Do you really think that there is a godly major party and a satanic one??
     
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    So far, Rosie O'Donnel is the leading authority on how many innocents have been killed in the war.

    Hey, my family lived in the South during the Civil War. Want me to research and find out how many of my aunts and uncles were killed in their homes by Northern troops? I know there were several. And these were women and children....their daddies and husbands were all gone off to war. The Yankees just came though and killed everyone that didnt hide, and burned everything to the ground.

    But that was for "the greater good" wasnt it?

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    Glad you ask.

    Iraqi body count:

    85,662 to 95,640
    http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

    U.N.: Nearly 35,000 Iraqi civilians killed in ’06
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16648759/

    1,100 Iraqi Civilians Reportedly Killed in Iraq in November 2007
    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/465410/1100_iraqi_civilians_reportedly_killed.html?cat=62

    The number of Iraqi civilians who met violent deaths in the two years after the US-led invasion was today put at 24,865 by an independent research team.
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0719-12.htm

    How many more do you want?
     
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    None of these sources are of how many innocent people the U.S. Killed.

    Nice try.
     
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    That number is still far, far less than the number that Sadam Hussein killed while he was in power. The Iraqi's are far, far safer now than they were back then.

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    Yes Roger, in practice sometimes it is hard to tell the difference, but in principle there is a distinct difference.

    I know it is hard to support a party that says it is based on biblical principles and doesnt always live up to them....but it it is even harder to support a party that just outright says up front that they oppose biblical teachings, and will do everything they can to promote ungodly principles.

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    Yep...there they go again. When one points out the tens of thousands of civilians who were killed in a non-defensive, unnecessary (not to mention illegally declared) war, the GOP's fundigelical Amen corner lines up to spew forth the proof texts from the OT dealing with God's covenant with the ancient nation of Israel as if they apply in the New Covenant to the secular nation of the USA (or modern day Israel for that matter). It's a pretty dangerous thing to misapply the Old Covenant, particularly as it stands now in relation to the New, in justifying the foreign policy decisions of the USA.

    If you slow down for a second, you'll notice that I did in fact state in my first post on this thread that Satan is heavily involved in both parties. I'm just as much against abortion as I am against unjust, aggressive wars.

    Sure it does. The USA is not the NT equivalent of the OT nation of Israel. There's blood on the US' hands when it goes and invades another nation, that has posed no threat to us nor has attacked us, and unleashes death and destruction on that nation. My antiwar position is just as much part of consistent Christian Biblical pro-life ethic as is my anti-abortion position.

    I certainly choose to base my vote the same. Perhaps, however, you'll reconsider your position on aggressive non-defensive wars in light of the whole counsel of Scripture.
     
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    "Non-defensive wars"?

    Do you really think that iraq wasnt supplying the terrorists with money and weapons to attack us with? Do you honestly think that Saddam Hussein didnt finance personally part of the 911 attack?

    Do you not believe the reports of every major intelligence agency in the world that Hussein was slaughtering hundreds of thousands of Kurds, and even Iraqis, or that his sons were kidknapping and torturing, and killing young girls at their whims?

    If you see an old woman getting beating and raped in an alley, should you help her, or would your attack on her attackers be a "non-defensive war"?

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    Yep, this is the same mindset that says 2 Chronicles 7:14 doesnt' apply to today, either, completely misguided.

    And, Roger, yes I would say the Democratic Party is the party of satan or the party of death for the reason quoted from their own platform which is quoted in my signature. I know there will be people on here who are offended, but my opinion is based on the Democratic planks in their own stated anti-Biblical agenda. Interestingly, the god of this world, no matter what name he goes by, always leads to death. Whereas, the One True God, leads to Life.
     
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    """"Originally Posted by Doubting Thomas
    Yep...there they go again. When one points out the tens of thousands of civilians who were killed in a non-defensive, unnecessary (not to mention illegally declared) war, the GOP's fundigelical Amen corner lines up to spew forth the proof texts from the OT dealing with God's covenant with the ancient nation of Israel as if they apply in the New Covenant to the secular nation of the USA (or modern day Israel for that matter). It's a pretty dangerous thing to misapply the Old Covenant, particularly as it stands now in relation to the New, in justifying the foreign policy decisions of the USA.""""


    Yes Thomas, I do beleive that when God told Abraham that the covenant was for 'forever" that He meant it.

    I do not for one second think that the USA even compares to a holy nation as such that God intended...but....just because it is not doesnt mean that we should just throw out God's principles and teachings, or that His teachings dont apply to us. No, we are not the literal nation of Isreal, but as children of God we should try to live up to and uphold the principles that God taught us through that nation.

    My point in the above post is that your opinion of the war is just that...an opinion...and that God has ordained war and even ordered the slaughter of all the inhabitants of a country in the past, ....but God has never ordered the slaughter of unborn babies or the ordination of gay marriage....ever.

    Should we vote on popular opinion? Or biblical principles?

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    Just because the popular opinion is opposed to the war in iraq doesnt mean we should abandon our biblical teachings and vote for whoever opposes the war.

    Just because our political system doesnt provide a perfect candidate this time doesnt mean we should compromise and throw out out christian beliefs in favor of "change"

    We, as christians should be strong and support biblical principles no matter what. If we vote to promote ungodly practices like abortion and gay marriage, then we are passing on a standard of unchristian immorality to our children that will be hard to reverse.

    The wars will end soon, like all wars do, but the immorality we pass on will burn into our children's future, and the longer it smolders, the hotter it will get, and the harder it will be to put out.

    Many people think that the war and the economy are the biggest issues in this election, but they arent. Wars end, and the economy recovers, but immorality is hard to overcome. The immorality will endure far longer than any war or recession.

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    But it is all right for a Republican administration to enter into an unjust war and kill thousands of innocent civilians ... or are they guilty because they live there?

    Does God approve of a party that has removed protective environmental barriers and are contributing to the destruction of the air and water we need to sustain life?

    Does God approve of a party that promotes huge tax cuts for the rich and gives nothing to the poor?

    Does God approve of a party that promotes huge profits for large industries at the expense of everyone?

    Does God approve raising the military budget while cutting the budget to food banks that help feed the poor?

    Does God approve of a party that runs huge deficits thereby mortgaging the future of our children and grandchildren?

    All this and more is the Republican party ...

    There is no moral political party in the USA ... no moral political party in the world.
     
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    Quit calling our troops murderers...

    It is WAR...

    God ordains the defense of countries...

    And yes the OT applies here...

    For one Party to openly declare WAR on innocent babies is satanic. and everyone that supports their agenda need to stop and repent.

    Abortion, gay rights, support of the ACLU... all points to the father of the democratic party... SAtan...

    but wait...

    Greed, lies, and corruption all points to the father of the Republican party.... Satan...

    neither party is God's party...

    That will only happen when we have a theocracy!
     
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