Don't Judge!!!

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  1. ShotGunWillie

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    Why is that the quickest response by the world and Christians alike? It seems when someone calls sin, sin, someone informs them they shouldn't be judging, that is doing God's work for him and he doesn't need their help. Although, in looking at it, telling someone not to judge, would be judging their actions as well, which means their comments are hypocritical.

    So why all the non-judging? Are we truly not to judge the actions of brethern? Are we not to judge the fruits? Are there not two different types of judging?

    Why all the non-judging and Christians getting scared to call it like it is?
     
  2. Gayla

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    This is a very good question.

    Sin is sin, but the world is intent on denying sin.
    Therefore,to the world, calling sin sin is judging.
     
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    I think where the "do not judge" comment is needed, is where someone states something is a sin, where Scripture is silent, like women wearing dresses, KJVO, alcohol, etc.
     
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    But the world as well as Christians today are quick to throw out that catch phrase "Do not judge", it seems like the only verse in the bible they know (besides John 3:16) is "judge not, lest ye be...." and they don't bother quoting the entire passage.
     
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    We should judge the actions...
    God judges the heart....

    Besides Jesus said not to.. in Matthew 7...

    But in reality, we all do... We had just better make sure our own house is clean before we go trying to clean someone elses...

    Jesus also said to not judge based on appearances, but to judge righteously... That means having all the facts...

    This is the reason we cannot judge someone's heart... only God knows all the facts...

    But we can, and do judge the actions of others and ourselves...
    And calling a sin a sin, is just judging the actions...

    I can say lying, drunkenness, adultery, murder, etc.. are sins... because God has already said they are... That is judging actions..

    But I cannot say, that Joe Bob, down the road, is going to Hell when he dies.. because all the facts are not in yet.

    We are to not condemn the person... but condemn the person's sin....
     
  6. Jkdbuck76

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    Everybody wants to say "judge not lest ye be judged" but as with all other *garbage people thow out there, they do not look at the context.

    The Bible says:

    1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

    2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Mk. 4.24

    3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

    4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

    5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

    All the people that throw out verse 1 forget verse 5. If we ARE to judge, then it must be a righteous judgement.

    *let me say that I do not regard the Bible as garbage, however, I think when non-believers cherry-pick verses.....well that IS garbage.
     
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    Let us not forget 1 Corinthians 5 - the entire chapter but watch how it finishes out:

    vs. 12-13 - "For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. "Purge the evil person from among you."

    We are not to judge the world. That's God's job. But we ARE to judge those inside the church on their behavior. This chapter is dealing with the man who has his father's wife yet the Corinthian church was arrogant and not acting on that sin. We ARE to use church discipline on those within the church and that is clearly Scriptural. I just tell anyone who says that to read 1 Corinthians 5 and come back to me. ;)
     
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    It is just an excuse. It is quite comparable to the excuse my daughter uses. When her work doesn't measure up to the standard that it ought to, she often resorts to: "Don't compare me with others." It's another way of saying the same thing. People don't like to be shown their failures, inadequecies, sins, etc. But in the light of God's Word we all fail.
     
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    Sounds like she took after you DHK............:)
     
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    If I say, "Homosexuality is wrong because I say so," then I am a judge and arrogant to boot. Who am I to make moral rules when I'm immoral myself?

    If I say, "Homosexuality is wrong because God says so," then I'm only passing along info that God has already judged. To attack me at that point is to stone the messenger.

    The true practice of theology is the difference between the government and the media. (Theoretically.)
     
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    This makes sense. Imho, very few people judge righteously. Most are just maliciously criticizing one another, misusing the bible to do so. Hurt feelings drawing both parties further from Christ. Be patient, become friends with them, develop some credibility, and likely the result will be different. No one cares what you know until they know you care.
     
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    Judging is Biblical, plain and simple.

    I believe many are against it, and many don't do it because of the blatant, purposeful, and avoidable sin that they let reign in their own lives.
     
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    Judging righteously is Biblical.

    Judging wrongly is not.

    Big difference.

    I echo TinyTims words earlier.
     
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    Always the gnat strainer.

    J/k.

    Actually, I agree. But most just lump them both together and consider it all unbiblical.
     
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    Your attention, please: Rbell @ Bro Williams agree.

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    I think the problem is, most people think of Judgment as condemnation...
    But we are not talking about it that way.
     
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    Alcohol should not be in the silent category as God's Word is not silent concerning it.
     
  18. dan e.

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    Oh brother.....everyone buckle up.
     
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    And who says miracles can't still happen?
     
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    that's hilarious.
     

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