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Hey Inspector!

Here's a video for you guys out fighting the war!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUScdrsMzpM

 

Is that Ponch standing around getting high from the second-hand smoke?

 

That's an old Monty Python skit. I probably shouldn't have posted it, Inspector Javert is being completely serious, and drugs are serious business.

Still, very funny skit.

 

Is that a hypocritical rule breaking, rude, insulting, false accuser, fascist big government loving authoritarian speaking again?

Why, yes it is.

Hey while we're on the subject of you being a total hypocritical rule breaking jerk you're old friends over at the "Christian Board" have been wondering what you've been up to since they last heard from you in April of last year so I'm putting together a collection of your more colorful Baptist Board quotes to show em.

Hope you don't mind . . .

 

I'm assuming you are talking to me. So, let me start out by saying this is a ridiculous question.

Apples and oranges again?

The more you type the more evident it becomes you haven't got a clue as to what individual liberty is. The fact that you have to keep constructing such ridiculous scenarios gives you away.

That's a debate for another time.

 

Drug dealers. Okay. You want to prosecute drug dealers. So do I. But here's the difference between you and I, I want the law to be applied equally. I believe if we are going to prosecute drug dealers then we should prosecute them all. Including crooked cops, judges and government agents that protect them. Your system breeds corruption and depends on intimidating innocent people.

In your system drug cartels such as the Sinaloa cartel are actually protected by those charged with bringing them to justice.

As you may have guessed by now I'm not real big on holding double standards.

That would explain much. Such as your lack of understanding the principles our nation was founded on.

You punish them? Is that a "government agent's" job to punish people? Apparently you feel as a "government agent" you have been given "instant field judiciary powers" so I assume your real name must be Judge Dredd.

You seem to have a warped understanding of the authority given to "government agents" FKA public servants. As a public servant you were never given authority to "punish people" unless you are a judge or hangman. And judging from your words you are neither.

I'm sure you do.

:laugh: I seriously doubt that. :laugh:

You debate like one to.

Translated to mean "I am the establishment respect my authoritah!"

Word of warning. Being part of the system is no guarantee that you will be protected from it. Sooner or later it will turn on you and your's. There's always a "night of the long knives" in corrupt regimes.

 

Can you even make a point without using labels? I doubt it. You say these stats are meaningless. I'm no psychiatrist but it would seem that by saying this you are trying to fend off the pain associated with an episode of cognitive dissonance. That's when two conflicting beliefs come in contact with one another, such as believing America to be the "land of the free" and having the largest prison population on earth.

No, you are an authoritarian who displays all the symptoms of a collectivist mindset that likes to kid yourself into believing you're a conservative.

 

I am a victim of your system agreed. I am forced into giving up a certain amount of my freedom (fourth amendment protections) so you can attempt to use government force to do the impossible namely protect people from doing harm to themselves.

As I have said before this is not the proper role of government. The proper role of government is to protect my rights and my person from others who would cause me harm.

That's a principle found in the Declaration Of Independence. And it has been proven time and again throughout history. You seem to have an affinity for accusing others of being "liberals" and you also seem to have an affinity for using the "collectivist" argument that "the individual and his rights must be sacrificed for the greater good". That can only mean one thing . . . you are closer to being a "liberal" (collectivist) than I.

This nation wasn't founded on the principle of collectivism, it was founded on the principle of individualism. I suggest, again that you do some "inspecting" and learn what these two philosophies are and what the difference between these two very different philosophies are.

All these are crimes of aggression against others and once again you are trying to equate them with crimes against oneself. Either you can't understand the difference or you simply refuse to acknowledge the difference.

It's going to be apples and oranges forever with you I guess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43-BefmjMFg "I AM THE LAW!" Inspector Javert via Judge Dredd.

This is the world Inspector Javert an all the other authoritarians that like to pretend being "conservatives" who love to strip the individual of his rights to "make us all safe from ourselves" is helping to create. A prison planet.

God help us.

 

Who is willing to add alcohol to the list of illegal drugs? Alcohol is the drug of choice for a majority of Americans.

 

Let's see if I'm a better detective than you.

You say you are a government agent. Well, let's explore this claim.

From the way you talk and confuse issues and showcase your lack of understanding of this nations founding principles and the idea of individual liberty I'm going to guess that you were an average student in school. Civics and philosophy weren't your best subjects.

You probably tried out for a sport maybe even made the team but didn't excel at it. People picked on you quite a bit in school and it made you bitter. You longed to have "authoritah".

After graduating in the middle of your class you attended a community college where you took a two year course most likely in "criminology".

Being a cop was your first choice but that didn't pan out for whatever reason so you became a prison guard instead. Well, who can blame you right? 20 years of babysitting for a big fat pension is hard to turn down and you got to wield that "authoritah" over others you yearned for.

Am I close?

I have to question your claim of being a "government agent" though. I suppose technically that would be correct if you worked as a guard in a prison that hasn't been privatized . . . that means under the control of one of the big corporate prison companies that promises to build new prisons and bring new jobs to depressed areas in exchange for government subsidies (tax money) and a guaranteed occupancy rate of 90 - 95%.

That means, more inmates = more profit for the corporation. Longer mandatory sentences for non violent crimes again = more profit for the corporation. There's a rather large lobby in Washington that urges congress on behalf of the private prison corporations to increase the length of prison sentences and create new "laws" to keep the prisons as close to full occupancy as possible. Overcrowded is even better! That means more prisons have to be built and more tax payer money can be had! It has nothing to do with protecting society anymore. It's all about partnering with government to squeeze the tax payer (society) for ever increasing corporate profits.

If you had studied your history in school (and if you did you probably didn't study this part of history as our un constitutional federalized education system frowns on such things being taught) you would recognize this as a condition known as "corporatism" or fascism by any other name. Which is basically government and corporate power merged.

No, fascists don't always look like nazis. Today they look like George Bush, Barrack Obama and most members of congress (both parties) and appear daily on our big screen TV's as "news anchors" and political pundits. They wear nice suits speak well and do whatever best serves the corporation's needs. Then there are the legions of people and we have quite a group of them here that are fascist supporters and they don't even realize it. If they did they wouldn't admit it anyway. But that's par for the course in corporate Amerika today.

And you probably still believe prisons are only for protecting society from "evil doers" as you call them. Little did you know that prisons have been turned into private cash generating machines at the expense of that very same society you'd probably rather go on thinking you are protecting. Am I right so far?

If indeed you are employed by a private prison corporation you would not be a "government agent" at all. You would be just another employee of a private corporation only and here's the rub you are living off other people's taxes via a corporatist (merging government power with corporate power) contract that binds the government and the corporation together into one legal parasitical entity that feeds off the same host (tax payer/society) so you can enjoy the luxury of being able to pretend being a "government agent" I mean you got a spiffy uniform and a shiny metal "badge" that "demands respect" to prove it right? Just curious where were they made? China perhaps?

I'm sure your family is very proud of you.

So how'd I do? Did I get it right?

Oh and before I forget . . . good luck with that pension. The international banks are going to seize it sooner or later to bail themselves out and pay off the government debt. :smilewinkgrin:

 

It's called back ground information. It's the information people need to make sense out of what's going on around them now.

Any inspecter worth his salt would know that.

But you're right this debate is done you lost it in the first few posts. When you proved to everyone that your opinions are based on prejudice instead of information. You let us all know that no matter what information was put forward that might prove the drug war a huge failed policy which it is you don't care because you think drug users are less than human and you don't care that the big banks launder billions of dollars a year for the drug cartels and the government itself is the biggest drug runner on the planet. See Iran Contra. You'd rather go on spending 80 - 90 billion a year on a failed policy than admit it's a failure. :smilewinkgrin: