Eating Animals as Food

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  1. Joe

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    In California, including at my son's high school, they had to throw away large amounts of ground beef due to the largest USDA meat recall in history. Our local fast food establishments such as Taco Bell and Jack in the Box also had to recall meat.

    The supplier ( A meat packing plant in California) supplied meat from diseased cattle, sick and crippled cattle. They were tortured by tazers, hauled with a forklift because they couldn't walk due to the abuse.

    Here is the video and some information by Peta cut and pasted from their website. If all we did was cut out the eggs and chicken, that would be a great first step. More chickens and turkeys are abused than cattle, due to their smaller size. One cow supplies much more meat than a chicken, so it goes further.

    Or buy CAGE free eggs & CAGE free chickens.


    Here's the youtube video of the Animal abuse . Unbelievable! :tear:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-5FUaK3FOM


    Information from PETA's website about this problem. http://goveg.com/vegetarian101.asp
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    If you are thinking about dieting, this is the perfect diet!
    Check out their website to learn of the health benefits of vegetarianism.
     
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    I find the title of this thread amusing- Eating animals as food. Why else would eat animals except for food?

    God gave them to us to eat. Might as well enjoy them. I would take the PETA info lightly. They are not the most credible source of info and clearly have an unblical agenda.

    Now let me get back to my steak.
     
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    God gave them to us to eat, I'd much rather take Him at His word then PETA.
     
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    I have no problem with anyone wanting to be a vegetarian. It leaves more hamburger for me. :laugh:

    Just kidding Joe. :saint:

    I think that, that meat processing plant has alot to answer for. I for one do not want to eat diseased meat of any kind. That is why I get mine from off my sister's ranch. Their cattle are free range and grain feed. And I get to pick which one I want for supper.:thumbs:
     
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    I read about this and on a search a few other stories about the meat industry came up.

    I agree that what they do is wrong, but that doesn't mean we should all become vegetarians.
    We shouldn't be punished for their crimes.

    vegetarian = bad hunter


    Amish food
     
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    Making fun of the title doesn't change the truth

    There is no agenda here which states you can't eat animals for food. But when the meat you purchase does not state it is free from man-induced drugs (animals are drugged therefore so are we when we consume these drugs) cage-free, organic, free-roaming etc...take your pic of the wording but doesn't indicate the animals god gave us are free from abuse, there is a problem. If you can't accomplish this, raise and kill your own food.

    Facts please, why aren't they credible? How does protecting God's creatures from abuse indicate an unbiblical agenda?
    The sanctity of life is important to God. We are allowed to eat animals, not pay others to kill them torturing & drugging them in the process. God wants us to be sober minded- not taking drugs via the meat we consume.

    By all means, pork out....
     
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    I like meat. Meat is good. I eat well balanced meals that include, sometimes, just eating a salad.

    I like meat...and I don't care where it comes from or how it's made, so long as it meets FDA standards. I enjoy balanced meals, but I really don't care where my meat comes from or what it looks like on the inside of a slaughterhouse. I don't ask my doctor to show the what what an upcoming surgery might look like to know that I'm safe.

    Since the first of the year I have cut out substantial portions of red meat and balanced my white meat intake. Also I've completelely cut out soft drinks from my diet. I've got more energy and feel better.

    I like meat, meat is good. I don't plan on cutting it out.
     
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    I think the PETA people might look at the Levitical law of how the sacrifices were done and not like that either. I have seen the tapes and yes, that is awful and they should be fined for that but I can´t help but wonder why a RECALL. This beef is from 2006, right? How many people are still going to have that in their freezer. It would be interesting to see how much of that beef was actually still out there or if they forced a recall because they knew it would get more media coverage then just a fine. More media coverage would be more of a punishment to this company then just a fine, don´t you think?

    Now, those of you that think we should stop eating meat look at the label on your jeans or shirt. Where was it made? Do you have any idea how much the person making your clothes is paid and in what conditions they work in? Should we stop wearing clothes too?:smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Donna tell us about your relative who worked (or works) for Banquet (the Frozen dinners) via Conagra Foods and how the animals were treated.

    You posted this prior, maybe we can hear it again.
     
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    There are many bad things going on in the world, you will always find something worse to compare something with. If we could stick to the subject, I would appreciate that.

    Btw, I don't buy new clothes generally for this reason. Buy most of my attire from yard sales (most everyone here is wealthy so you can get nice clothes without a problem) OR Buy new clothes made in the US
     
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    With all respect, Joe: This is not a site you have cut and pasted from, but is an A-G-E-N-D-A! There are a lot of half-truths there plus many assumptions.

    One such assumption, is that all meat is bad for you. Half-truth, at best!

    Second, if there were no animals, all the land devoted to their production could be farmed for corn, wheat, beans, etc. Not true, at all. Most of the land I farm is highly erodible, and were it not in grass, hay, and pasture, and were tilled regularly, as in corn, beans, wheat, etc., there would soon be nothing left but impassible land with gullies. I still deal with gullies every day- some from the farming of row crops long in the past, and some merely from the natural erosion, etc. of the earth over time.

    A third implicit, but not stated tenet, is that the lives of animals are equal to the lives of humans. (Out of curiosity, I wonder how many peta-types have a flyswatter and/or a mousetrap around, but that is another story. Or how many would put a snake under their home as I have done, more than once. Get a snake, guess what? No rats and mice invading!) This is also in direct contradiction to both OT and NT Scriptures, which fully allow the consumption of meat, at least after the flood.

    One can well make the choice for a vegetarian lifestyule for health or personal preference reasons, and some obviously do. But there is not one particle of Scripture to back such a choice, anymore than there is one particle of Scripture dictating what kind of automobile or truck you or I may drive.

    Ed

    P.S. There is actually a type of truck mentioned, hence I guess preferrred, in Scripture.

    It is a new Dodge, 'cause the Bible speaks of a RAM without blemish. Abraham confirmed his covenant with a used one, 'cause it says bring one three years old'. And Ezra told them to take the money and buy bulls and RAMS, and lambs. I didn't see anything about Toyotas, Chevys, or Fords, there.

    That's good enough for me. :D :laugh: :laugh:
     
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    Sorry to offend you.

    I think it is good to eat food that is free-ranged for health reasons- of the people eating not the animales per se (though I disagree with abuse). Here in Argentina our beef tastes better the most US beef I have eaten since the a lot of it is free-ranged.

    I don´t have time to look now but maybe after I get back from church. I will find a source though, because I know I have read PETA info of which clearly put animales above humans, which is outside of God´s created order therefore unbilical. We never animals on the same par as humans in the Bible and to suggest that they have the same "rights to life" as humnas is absurd. God put man in dominion over animals, he gives them to us to eat and expects us to be good stewards of them (of which being abusive is not).

    Nope. Eating in controled portions and balanced with other foods makes beef a valuble source of nutrition.

    Ciou
     
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    Just because an item was made in America doesn't mean the workers were treated like they should be.
    I wasn't treated right by my employer, many of them.
     
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    I think people who eat meat should have to butcher their own at least once in their life. Animals for consumption should live outdoors, cage free, adaquate shelter, with plenty of selection and stimulation, then be butchered as humanely as possible. I'm not PETA, but I do think the bible supports humane treatment of animals. When we treat animals so callously, it says a lot about our society in general.

    love,

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    Everyone can rip apart the organization all they want, it doesn't change the information.

    Animal life should not be above human life, but that doesn't change the information regarding Animal Abuse

    To my knowledge, the majority of meat packing plants in the US abuse animals, yet not to this degree. They are not free-range like other countries, are packed together so tightly they cannot stretch a leg or move. They sit in their own waste, and drugging them is routine.

    Here is wikipedia's link for meat packing plant. It includes only ONE picture, so I suspect what you see is routine.

    No one wants anyone to quit eating meat, but to ensure that God's creatures are not tortured unnecessarily in the process.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_packing_industry

    I wonder if these hard hearted responses regarding God's creatures is because people watch too much violent content on TV.
     
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    Yes, but there is more of a chance. Other countries are much worse.
    I will research the company before buying usually, but it helps that I hate to shop in general
     
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    No problem, thank you for that. That's great your meat is healthier. Organic meat here tastes like the meat did a decade or two ago.
     
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    Yep, we are in the last days....
    When PETA has more influence than the word of God...

    1Ti 4:1-5
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    Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
    (2) Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
    (3) Forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
    (4) For every creature of God [is] good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
    (5) For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
     
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    Act 10:13-15
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    And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
    (14) But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
    (15) And the voice [spake] unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, [that] call not thou common.
     
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    No, this recall just happened.
     

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