Ebook: The Coming Battle.

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  1. poncho

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    COPYRIGHT, 1899 BY M. W. WALBERT

    INTRODUCTION.

    In this volume the author endeavors to give an accurate history of the present National Bank System of currency, including an account of the first United States Bank,- both of which were borrowed from Great Britain by those statesmen who, like the father of Sir Robert Peel, believed that a national debt was the source of prosperity.

    It is believed that the facts adduced in the following pages will be productive of some good, in pointing out the immense evils lurking in that system of banking, a system which has produced panics at will, and which is the active abettor of the stock gamblers, railroad wreckers, and those industrial tyrants of modern times, the enormously overcapitalized and oppressive trusts.

    It is sought to point out the great dangers of delegating purely government powers to these greedy monopolists, by which they are enabled to organize a money trust, far more tyrannical than all the other combinations now in existence; and by which they absolutely defy the authority that endowed them with corporate life.

    The issue between these banks and the people will be joined in the near future, and the greatest struggle

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    the world ever witnessed will take place between the usurping banks on the one hand and the people on the other.

    In the nature of things, unjustly acquired power of man over man generally rises to such heights of arrogance, as to eventually create a public opinion that will grind tyranny of every form to atoms, hence, The Coming Battle that will surely take place in the near future and the victory that will be won by justice will be the noblest events in American history.

    The Author


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    Pancho, I agree with you on this one. The banking system needs an overhaul. I am sick and tired of Greenspan raising and lowering interest rates right and left to conform to his personal ideas of what the economy should be. Secondly, I don't think that Greenspan should have control of the money supply even if the money is not worth the paper it is printed on.

    It is going to take a new class of Congressmen and a new President to continue the fight against Islam's attempted conquest of the world, to close and regulate the borders, to deal with criminal illegals by deportation, and to reform the economic system by revamping the banking system to modern needs as well as trim the size of government.

    I look for little progress in these areas because of the selfish nature of people. The Amrican people will kill the goose that laid the golden egg.
     
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    Wasn't back all that long ago (1967) that Greenspan himself agreed with us CMG.

    The essay can be read below.
    Gold and Economic Freedom by Alan Greenspan

    The bankers went right for the jugular with their central bank and has been bleeding us ever since. It's a good setup for them to create wealth out of thin air, not so good for us because we get to pay both principal and interest on that air. If you or I were to do the same, independent of the banker's control we'd most likely end up bunkies at the crowbar hotel. [​IMG]

    Did you notice The Coming Battle was published in 1899?
     
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    No, I did not notice.

    I forgot to say that ending abortion is a part of the necessity that slso seems to await a new President and a new Congress. The common man must be tired. He has defeated nazism and communism but still faces Islamism and liberalism and modernism.
     
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    The Founding Fathers established a system of "coin" money that was designed to prohibit the "improper and wicked" manipulation of the nation's medium of exchange while guaranteeing the power of the citizens' earnings.

    The federal government has departed from the principle of "coin" money as defined by the U.S. Constitution and the Mint Act of 1792 and has granted unconstitutional control of the nation's monetary and banking system to the private Federal Reserve System.

    In order for such reform to be effective, it is necessary that the United States:

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    • Return to the money system set forth in the Constitution;</font>
    • Repeal the Federal Reserve Act, and reform the current Federal Reserve banks to become clearing houses only; and</font>
    • Prohibit fractional reserve banking.</font>
    Source: Money and Banking

    Two great books that deal with this topic:

    Creature From Jekyll Island, by G. Edward Griffin
    Financial Terrorism, by John F. McManus
     
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    "Like gold, U.S. dollars have value only to the extent that they are strictly limited in supply. But the U.S. government has a technology, called a printing press (or, today, its electronic equivalent), that allows it to produce as many U.S. dollars as it wishes at essentially no cost. By increasing the number of U.S. dollars in circulation, or even by credibly threatening to do so, the U.S. government can also reduce the value of a dollar in terms of goods and services, which is equivalent to raising the prices in dollars of those goods and services. We conclude that, under a paper-money system, a determined government can always generate higher spending and hence positive inflation." --Ben Bernanke, nominated to replace Alan Greenspan as Federal Reserve chairman

    It will only get worse unless we demand reform!

    The Fed put out a short, flat notice, saying that it will discontinue publication of M3 figures after March 2006. M3 is the most important money aggregate for economists, analysts and Fed watchers to get an idea at what speed the (electronic) printing press is running.

    http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h6/discm3.htm
     
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    I'm surprised someone didn't accuse you of another conspiracy theory, poncho; you should have left off the source & date in your post, and THEN let your accusers REALLY have it, LOL. ;)
     
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    It does seem a little strange LE. Don't get to comfortable though the thread is only on page one. ;)
     
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    It is not a conspiracy when one lurches uncontrollably into the truth. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    G. Edward Griffin. I haven't gotten around to reading Creature From Jekyll Island yet but I have managed to read The Future Is Calling, it can be found at this LINK

    The book itself is in four (PDF) parts but they are fairly short and easy to read.

    MEET EDWARD FLAHERTY, CONSPIRACY POO-POOIST
    A response to a critic of The Creature from Jekyll Island
    © 2004 by G. Edward Griffin

    Edward Flaherty is a Ph.D. of Economics who has been critical of my book, The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second look at the Federal Reserve. Periodically I receive inquiries from readers who have visited Flaherty's web site, and they want to know if I can rebut what he says. I put this off for a long time because, first, his critique is lengthy and loaded with minutia that requires considerable time to respond properly and, second, the number of inquiries has been so small as to place the importance of this task far down on my list of priorities. Nevertheless, whenever I get an inquiry, I dread that my reader may think that a lack of response is a sign of not being able to defend my work; so, at last, I decided to step up to the plate and swing at the ball that Flaherty has thrown in my direction.

    The essence of Flaherty's critique is that anyone who opposes the Federal Reserve must be some kind of a kook, totally lacking in scholarship. He lumps all Fed critics together, those who bring scholarship to the topic as well as those who do not, and the mixture tends to discredit everyone. It is an old tactic of dumping garbage into the grocery bag so that it all smells like garbage and is rejected in total.

    On September 5, 2004, I received an email from a reader who had compared comments made in my recorded lecture with what Flaherty's web site says and asked for clarification. What follows is his inquiry with my reply embedded at appropriate locations.

    My reader begins by quoting from my recorded lecture, followed by a quote from Eustace Mullins:

    My lecture: I came to the conclusion that the Federal Reserve needed to be abolished for seven reasons. I’d like to read them to you now just so that you get an idea of where I’m coming from, as they say. I put these into the most concise phrasing that I can to make them somewhat shocking so that, hopefully, you’ll remember them:

    1. The Fed is incapable of accomplishing its stated objectives.

    2. It is a cartel operating against the public interest.

    3. It is the supreme instrument of usury.

    4. It generates our most unfair tax through inflation and bailouts.

    5. It encourages war.

    6. It destabilizes the economy.

    7. It discourages private capital formation.

    Eustace Mullins, Secrets of the Federal Reserve: “...the increase in the assets of the Federal Reserve banks from 143 million dollars in 1913 to 45 BILLION dollars in 1949 went directly to the private stockholders of the [federal reserve] banks.”

    My reply: I stand firmly behind my seven points but I do not agree with Mullins on this. Please do not lump my work with other writers. Flaherty does this a lot. Guilt by association is a ploy that must be challenged and rejected.

    Flaherty: It would be a mistake to examine these conspiracy theories....

    My reply: Stop right there. There is nothing about my work that merits being classified as a conspiracy theory. In modern context, it is customary to associate the phrase “conspiracy theory” with those who are intellectually handicapped or ill informed. Using emotionally loaded words and phrases to discredit the work of others is to be rejected. If I am to be called a conspiracy theorist, then Flaherty cannot object if I were to call him a conspiracy poo-pooist. The later group is a ridiculous bunch, indeed, in view of the fact that conspiracies are so common throughout history. Very few major events of the past have occurred in the absence of conspiracies. To think that our modern age must be an exception is not rational. Facts are either true or false. If we disagree with a fact, our job is to explain why, not to use emotionally-loaded labels to discredit those who disagree with us.

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    How does it encourage war?

    I think that it is a poor way to manage the economy. I think that the printing presses for money should be under the control of the US Treasury. The rich in banks are always going to set prices on interest for people who need or want to borrow money.
     
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    Quote taken from The Coming Battle.

     
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    Except for ending slavery, Fascism, Nazism, and Communism, war has never solved anything.
     
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    No, but it has generated some very great suffering on the whole of mankind and some very great windfalls for a very small percentage of men.

    Besides CMG, fascism, nazism, and communism has never ended, slavery is still practiced in many parts of the world. And also almost as if by some strange coincidence these ideologies were encouraged and financed by the organized money power. As well as liberalism, enviromentalism, modernism, and now globalism.

    People that are balkanized are easier to manipulate (loot) and control with a police state and troops.
     
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    Well, Poncho, this world is a vale of tears and the only light in this dark place is Jesus Christ The Lamb of God.
     
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    I never doubted that for a moment CMG.

    I would hope though that some small measure of relief from manipulation could be gained by the people knowing who the manipulators are and how they manipulate. Our founding fathers knew of the organized money power and the ways and means of their operations and chose to do something about it to better mankind's condition and provide a haven of liberty from this very type of tyranny we seem to be content to live under and even trust and obey today.
     
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    CMG, it warmed my heart to see you agree with Poncho on such a critical issue (I know this thread is old but I stumbled across it when researching "usury"). Do you know of any candidates for 2008 that are and have spoken out against the central banking / Federal Reserve system? If you found one would you support that individual?
     
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    Okay, I see it was Rufus that brought up this old thread, whew, for a minute there I thought Cisco was posting under my screen name again.:laugh:
     
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    Oh, Pancho!
     

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