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Ecclesiastes 5:2

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by princessJJ, Jul 22, 2006.

  1. princessJJ

    princessJJ New Member

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    Can someone tell me what this verse means/is refering to? :confused:
     
  2. John of Japan

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    I believe it is referring to oaths, since it talks about uttering things "before God." Remember that Jesus said about swearing oaths, "But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil" (Mt 5:37).

    Having said that, there are Scriptures indicating that too many words open the way to sin. "In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise" (Prov. 10:19). The book of Proverbs is full of similar statements. The more we listen the more we learn, right? Or as someone else said, God gave us two ears but only one mouth, so maybe we should listen twice as much as we talk!

    I hope this helps.
     
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    Look at the verses around your passage.

    verse 1 = when in God's presence, don't be so prone to shoot off your mouth to Him.....LISTEN

    verse 2 = (your verse) = God doesn't need you telling Him what to do....he needs your ears, your heart, your obedience, your service

    verse 3 = foolish people are known by the multitude of words that come from their mouths

    verse 4 = when you tell God that you are going to do something....DO IT and just shut up about it

    verse 5 = it's better to not promise God anything at all than to make Him a promise and then not to keep it

    verse 6 = don't be a spiritual blabbermouth and then when you make a mess of things in the flesh come before God and say, "OOPS!!! SORRY!!" That brings about God's wrath

    verse 7 = so much of our life is fantasy and useless babbling....don't get caught up in that....get caught up in this: FEAR GOD!
     
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    "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
    -- Mark Twain
     
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    Jarthur writes:

    "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."


    -- Mark Twain​




    Does that apply to posting on the BB?

    Sorry, I couldn't resist.
     
  6. John of Japan

    John of Japan Well-Known Member
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    :laugh: I thought it was Samuel Clemens who said that, not Mark Twain. :laugh:
     
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    It was Abraham Lincoln
     
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    Yes...I have always heard it was Lincoln myself. When I thought of the quote, I did i search to make sure I had the right wording, and the site I found the quote said it was Twain so I thought maybe I was wrong.

    My guess is that Lincoln said it, Clemens heard Lincoln say it and told Twain. Mark Twain then wrote about it. :smilewinkgrin: :smilewinkgrin:

    No really, I had always heard it was Lincoln...but realy I have no idea.
     
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    Arthur, after this candid quote about self examination, do you have a new perspective on things?
     
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    no...nothing new.

    Read the book of Ecclesiastes and you would know this.

    Nothing new under the sun. :)

    May Gods love be real to you saturn, and may you be full of Gods understanding and peace.


    In Christ..James
     
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    [​IMG]"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." - -- Mark Twain
     
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    God's love is quite real to me, and feel full of God's understanding and peace, thanks for asking. Now, go back to being the martyr. :laugh:
     
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    Even you would have to admit, I'm pretty good at being a martyr!!!
     
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    Hope you got my message and took it to heart.
     
  16. princessJJ

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    Okay I have only been a christian a year so i am trying ot figure out things... so I tend to pray like all the time.. just like a lil thing comes to mind and i pray about it... is this verse referring to this? saying you shouldn't pray a lot? I am confused.. ( i am blonde so it happens rather easily...:tongue3: ) or like when i pray i tend to be wordy if you will in praying.. is that wrong?
     
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    Absolutely not! You go right ahead and pray all the time and tell the Lord absolutely everything. He delights to hear your prayer, wishes all of us prayed more, and wants to hear from you absolutely everything that is in your heart (even though He knows it already)! I once made up a motto for myself: "Talk less to men, but more to God, and more to men about God."

    1 Thess. 5:17--"Pray without ceasing."

    Phil. 4:6--"Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God."
     
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    God bless you princess, you keep right on praying about every little thing and don't stop. I heartily second JofJ's post!

    Talk to God constantly. It's one of the sweet blessings of being saved. I believe the "listening" side of prayer comes on its own, you don't have to be literally silent for it to happen. The only thing I would caution against is "vain repitition" (such as the catholic's rosary), memorized prayers (pray from the heart, not the memory), and "formal" prayer (must bow, stand, raise hands, lower hands, sign of the cross, following any pattern or physical form during prayer in a ritualistic manner).

    Just keep praying from your heart and you'll do well.
     
  19. J.D.

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    BTW me and 2BHizown would recommend John Bunyan's book on prayer. It's available on the internet here:

    Purchase: http://www.monergismbooks.com/prayerbun0906.html

    Free: http://www.peacemakers.net/johnbunyan/bun-prayer.rtf

    The opening of Bunyan's treatise on prayer:

    WHAT PRAYER IS.

    FIRST, What [true] prayer is. Prayer is a sincere, sensible, affectionate pouring out of the heart or soul to God, through Christ, in the strength and assistance of the Holy Spirit, for such things as God hath promised, or according to the Word, for the good of the church, with submission, in faith, to the will of God.
     
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