Eerdman's Publishes Mormon Book

Marcia wrote,

I made no direct reference to any particular persons, and I most certainly did not imply that James White was wrong in his “assessements of these points.” However, James White wrote, “But we are talking about a book that is a clear apologetic for Mormonism, which is intended to persuade and convert.” This statement is false. And, by the way, “pursuade” is generally spelled “persuade” by those persons who are literate. And “assessements” is properly spelled “assessments.”

When those who reply to my posts cannot understand what I have written, I cannot help but wonder who else and what else they cannot understand.

 

Marcia wrote,

The important issue here is not what some dingbat Mormons have taught in the past, but what is the current official position of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Let’s not forget that there has been (and still are) no shortage of dingbat Baptists who taught KJOism, Millennial Exclusion, and Millennial Punishment. I certainly would not want to be judged for my faith on the basis of these dingbat Baptists.

I am posting here, from the official site of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints their “basic” doctrine of the “Nature of God”:

 

Notice that the official site of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints uses the following terminology:

Only “our Heavenly Father” is specifically called “God” here, yet the Holy Spirit is specifically called “the third member of the Godhead.” So, exactly what is the official position of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints regarding the deity of Christ and of the Holy Spirit? I believe that Baptists should know the answer to these questions, and I don’t believe that they should get the answer from a Baptist layman or anyone else who does not know the official position of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

 

</font>[/QUOTE]The above quoted material is taken from Dr. Cky Carrigan's website at ontruth.com. This information comes from his PhD. dissertation on Mormon Christology. He spent years researching Mormon doctrine using Mormon sources from LDS published materials, interviews with LDS officials, BYU/LDS scholars, etc. His dissertation is on file in the library at BYU even though it points out all the errors of Mormon Christology and their departure(s) from traditional orthodox Christianity.

Dr. Carrigan is a fine evangelical Christian apologist and evangelist. To put it in our "Baptist" terms... he is a good soul-winner. He knows the false teachings of the enemy and he uses that information to expose their self-defeating claims in the light of the Gospel and then help those who have been deceived by them to come to know the truth of God's Word.

What you have to understand is that he did not just make up the things that he exposes about Mormon Christology. He spent time studying their teachings and published materials (as Craig is suggesting is the smart thing to do). Then he evaluated his findings in the light of God's Word, which resulted in his ability to expose their false teachings/beliefs about Christ, the Virgin Birth, the Trinity etc. (as all of us, I hope, agree is the right and Biblical thing to do).

One of the things that I remember most from taking Dr. Carrigan's Christian Faith and World Religions class here at SEBTS is that Mormons use the same terminology as we (Evangelical Christians) use. However, how they define those terms is vastly different and that is what leads to their error and false teachings. When you discuss with a Mormon you must remember to make them define the terms that they use so that you do not assume that they mean the same thing that you mean when you use the same term. Here is one example: Mormons use the term Trinity to refer to what they call the "Triune" nature of God the Father, Christ the Son, and the Holy Spirit. However, they do not teach/believe that the Trinity means that these three are one God in three persons with the exact same nature and essance (as in traditional orthodox Christian teaching). What they mean is that God the Father, Christ the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one (i.e. a Trinity or Triune) in that they share a common purpose only.

[ May 19, 2005, 02:32 AM: Message edited by: Bible-boy ]

 

Bible-boy wrote,

On page 2 of this thread I wrote,

dianetavegia wrote on page 3,

I replied to Diane’s post,

 

Marcia wrote,

No, of course not! How many juveniles are you personally acquainted with who use the word "dingbat" or who are familiar with the meaning and origin of the word? Personally, the only persons who I can recall using the word are university professors!

Please post documentation to verify this claim.

Please post documentation to verify this claim.

 

Craig,
You state that 1) you have taught comparative religions classes
2) Mormonism is false
3) Many Christian attempts to expose Mormonism's falsity is pathetic junk
4) that we can't rely on many direct statements from Mormons because those were dingbat Mormons from long ago.

Would you please, with documentation, state what you find objectionable in Mormon theology?
The thrust of your remarks in this thread, to me, is that whatever Marcia says, you need to show that you have a more sophisticated response than she does.
And you don't answer direct questions directly.

Karen