'Expelled' breaks into Top 10 on first weekend

Discussion in '2008 Archive' started by Revmitchell, Apr 22, 2008.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    38,386
    Likes Received:
    790
    A documentary that examines a movement in academic circles to censor the teaching of intelligent design placed in the Top 10 of box office receipts on its opening weekend.

    Story Here
     
  2. mcdirector

    mcdirector
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    8,292
    Likes Received:
    10
    I've been waiting for this movie to come out and right now I'm too busy to see it. I'm excited to see it doing so well.
     
  3. Born_in_Crewe

    Born_in_Crewe
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2007
    Messages:
    390
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thing is if Intelligent Design is so implausible, why are they so worried about it being taught? Surely the kids will eventually realise it isn't true. I think they're worried because they know it might be true.
     
  4. Magnetic Poles

    Magnetic Poles
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2005
    Messages:
    10,407
    Likes Received:
    0
  5. holas84

    holas84
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2006
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    0
    I haven't seen it yet, but I have seen advertisements for it all over the internet. I am looking forward to seeing it! Has anyone here seen this movie yet?
     
  6. Bible-boy

    Bible-boy
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2002
    Messages:
    4,254
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well what'd ya expect? I didn't read everything that link contained. However, I would point out that the opening part of the article that is critical of the "extras" in the audience is nonsense. I have participated in the audience of a "recorded live" video. What that article describes is no different than what I experienced back in the early 1990s, and you can bet that Michael Moore's and Al Gore's etc. "live audience" shots were/are no different either. It is a trick of the trade in the video industry. They have the script and they know the reaction that they are looking for from the audience. In fact, if the script has a part that is supposed to be funny they record the audience laughing several times from several different angles prior to beginning the actual recording with the actor/artist on stage. That way, if during the actual recording (with the actor/artist), the video editors do not feel that they got the reaction they were/are looking for they can splice in the pre-recorded shots that they do like. You can't condemn the content of the message based upon the recording tactics of the film industry. The article's author ought to at least be intellectually honest enough to admit what was really taking place rather than trying to act as if some big conspiracy is afoot.
     
  7. Gwen

    Gwen
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2004
    Messages:
    4,107
    Likes Received:
    5
    I saw it, and loved it! I'm glad to see it doing so well!!
     
  8. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    38,386
    Likes Received:
    790
    I saw it Fri. In it Dawkins admitted to the possibility to an intelligent designer.

    The audience applauded at the end.
     
  9. Don

    Don
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2000
    Messages:
    10,550
    Likes Received:
    213
    To be honest and fair, in a subsequent article, Dawkins says he did NOT admit to an intelligent designer, but constructed a "science fiction scenario" to answer Stein's query about whether Dawkins could think of any circumstances whatsoever under which intelligent design might have occurred (http://richarddawkins.net/article,2394,n,n).

    Personally, I believe Dawkins is against anyone believing anything other than what Dawkins believes.
     
  10. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    38,386
    Likes Received:
    790

    That is unfortunate. I saw the interview. That is not the way it played out. Dawkins is backtracking.
     
  11. Magnetic Poles

    Magnetic Poles
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2005
    Messages:
    10,407
    Likes Received:
    0
    Looks more like you are misrepresenting his views.
     
  12. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    38,386
    Likes Received:
    790
    Well..Am I to be surprised you would take this position?
     
  13. Magnetic Poles

    Magnetic Poles
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2005
    Messages:
    10,407
    Likes Received:
    0
    Have you ever read Dawkins' books? If you had, you'd understand why I say that. Your position would be like saying Christopher Hitchens worshipped at your church last Sunday. :laugh:
     
  14. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    38,386
    Likes Received:
    790

    I did not make what Dawkins said in the movie clear. So your misunderstanding of what I intended to say is my fault. Dawkins gave room that the earth and we humans were made by intelligent design. But only if the designer was intelligence from another place in the universe. He would not give room for God because he feels even God would have to have a start somewhere. Then he ended it with admitting he has no idea how all things actually got started.
     
  15. Magnetic Poles

    Magnetic Poles
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2005
    Messages:
    10,407
    Likes Received:
    0
    OK, that sounds more consistent. I will have to read a transcript when I get a chance. Thanks for clarifying.
     
  16. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    38,386
    Likes Received:
    790
    Even with his idea of other intelligence being in existence his concession that their is a designer is problematic for evolutionists.
     
  17. hillclimber1

    hillclimber1
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2006
    Messages:
    2,447
    Likes Received:
    0
    A major point I got from the movie was that the intellectuals in charge of science today are unwilling to give the ID theory any thought at all, and further, they immediately seek to destroy those that want to discuss it. Very unscientific.

    my aside: In order to so vociferously take that stand, they must be "haters of God".
     
    #17 hillclimber1, Apr 29, 2008
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 29, 2008
  18. dragonfly

    dragonfly
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2008
    Messages:
    1,594
    Likes Received:
    0
    I only recently found out about this movie, and I would love to see it.

    I do not believe in evolution. It is obvious that there is a Creator or we would not have a creation. To believe that it all just came about by chance is preposterous, in my view.
     
  19. billwald

    billwald
    Expand Collapse
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2000
    Messages:
    11,414
    Likes Received:
    0
    The problem is not you or anyone "believes in." The problem is what should be taught in public schools as science. Most of the "Proofs" of ID consist of a misapplication of statistics by people who should know better but prefer to lie to you all.
     
  20. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    38,386
    Likes Received:
    790

    Fill us in please.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

Loading...