Exposing False Dectrine

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  1. desertjim

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    I "should" know this answer, but any more I never know what to think about whom :(.

    What do you think of a pastor who will not expose/warn about false doctrine, in view of God's Word?

    We live out in the desert and don't have a lot of choices as to where to attend, so we "compromised" by going to a SBC church, then another, and we left them both because we disagreed about the pastor's stand on the subject. We didn't leave with any hard feelings, just a strong disagreement which would not have glorified the Lord, edified the church nor would it have been good for the pastor and us.

    Thankfully, a new IFB church had just been planted and we were led to it. We are excited about it! Nothing is more of a blessing than helping the Lord build a church. This will be number three in the past 16 years. Lot of work, tho.

    I may compromise on some things but never on doctrine. I'd stay home first!

    In Christ, Jim
     
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    Can you specify which false doctrines a pastor ought to spend 24/7/365 of his time exposing?
     
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    good question, as one Christians "false doctrines" any times is just another preferences/convictions!
     
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    Brother, I believe you are being facetious. Your post doesn't show a Christian attitude at all. Perhaps you believe a false doctrine?

    I would have expected a reply like yours from the "Christia" list which is full of folks who have been deceived into believing a false doctrine.

    In His Care,

    Jim
     
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    I would suggest all of them: As the gospel becomes an integral part of our hearts, our heads, our hands, and our habits, the truth will be like a city set on a hill. It is amazing how error, deception, and heresy cannot thrive in the light of the Word.
     
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    There is an ABUNDANCE of false teachers out there, hence that is why the crowd who hates Christ, sound doctrine, and those who stand for sound doctrine, can HEAP to themselves such to scratch their heresy loving ears.

    That said, I don't think we need to hear about false doctrine constantly. We should temper that with Hebrews 5:12ff:

    Heb 5:12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. You need milk, not solid food,

    Heb 5:13 for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child.

    Heb 5:14 But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil.
     
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    Of course! We should preach Christ and Him Crucified.

    However, when the subject of false doctrine comes up, it MUST be addressed according to God's word.

    We need to hear about "giving" now and then, and whenever the subject arises, but we don't need to hear that all the time either :).

    My point, and it seems to have been missed, was that I will not sit under a pastor who refuses to condemn false teachers............when it comes up, of course :).

    Too many people, in life in general - not just in church - will accept whatever is thrown at them. The Bereans didn't, nor should we. Nor should we compromise sound doctrine, PERIOD, even if we must STAY HOME. We usually aren't faced with just the two options, but sometimes we almost are.

    In His Service,

    Jim
     
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    As others have posted, there's any number of so-called "false" doctrines floating around. You haven't specified any one of what you consider to be FALSE.

    Moreover, I know nothing of a "Christia" [sic] list on which my name is to be found.

    If you're happy with your newly-found pastor/IFB church, that's fine with me. May God bless both you and him.

    OTOH, simply because some other pastor/church doesn't spend all his/their time exposing what you consider to be false doctrine(s), is not a valid reason to write him/them off.
     
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    Again, you are being facetious. If you can't reply to me as a Christian brother, don't pretend to be one.

    You are "spinning" things and making "yourself" look bad, not me.

    As far as I'm concerned a "spin" it the same as a lie.

    I know your ilk - you don't really have anything to add to the conversation, so you keep busy spinning what others say so you "can" have something to say.

    You might want to examine your heart. It is evil, you know and can lead you astray, as it has in two posts today. Repent.

    For your information, a false doctrine is a false doctrine, no matter how much truth there may be within it. The most dangerous lie is the one that most closely resembles the truth. Perhaps you have heard that before. If not how about this: A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump". Sound familiar?
     
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    True. The passage I gave should be preached. The sheep should also be discerning as the text describes.

    When it 'comes up'? When is that? What exactly in the church context do you mean by when it comes up? Every time in the pulpit? Or do you mean every time the preacher brings it up? Or, if you bring it up? Or, the preacher should bring it up and harp on it in essantly?

    No one has missed by our point. Again, who is bringing it up, you?

    Yes. That's why I offered the Hebrews text.

    I agree about sound doctrine so lighten up Francis, you're no maverick here. I think you simply want your sugar stick message preached way too often like whenever you bring it up.

    It sounds like you also confront pastors about what you want them to preach on according to your op and that tells me that when it 'comes up' it comes from you. If they don't do it you get huffy and leave and make yourself a martyr or rejected prophet. :thumbs: :laugh:
     
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    Exactly. Going by the info thus far I doubt it's all the pastors who are at fault. :thumbs:
     
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    Actually, I thought I was on an IFB group, but it doesn't appear that I am.

    Yes, even many IFB churches have gone Ecumenical and I will have no part of those churches, nor anyone else who thinks that way.

    As an IFB I believe strongly in separation, from the world, false doctrines and even those who, by their own words, fall into that category.

    Ecumenical and New Evangelical ideas will lead to a one-world church, and it's coming much quicker than many of us realized a few years ago.

    So..............it is easy to see how "the right way" is still narrow and few be that travel it.

    As much as I dislike the SBC, they sound a lot better than what I've been reading here. Been out of touch with the world I guess, but I like it that way.
     
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    Curious.... can you go in there without wearing a tie & jacket?
     
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    Oh my, NO! That would send one to hell real quickly! The same as wimmen who wear pants!!

    Are you in this group just for fun? It appears that some are. Well, since they already know it all, nothing else to do but have fun. I guess.

    I was hoping to learn something, but it appears I came into the wrong place.
     
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    desertjim: "Again, you are being facetious. If you can't reply to me as a Christian brother, don't pretend to be one."

    'Pears to me that you are "fleeing when no-one is pursuing"!

    The request be more specific seems rather reasonable if you are truly interested in a dialogue about the subject.

    Kinda hard to intelligently discuss a BROAD (doctrines) topic without having some parameters to follow.

    So, in Christian love, allow me to suggest that you be specific as to the specific doctrines you are concerned about.

    I say this simply to verify that you are talking about a true DOCTRINE, as opposed to a personal - but not Biblical - DOCTRINE.
     
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    So, what do we have here a "children's list"? When I was a child, I thought as a child. I have graduated from those classes.

    Like I said, a false doctrine is one that is false; one that you can't support with God's word.

    All "personal" doctrines are false. Actually, most teachings today are false, or at the very least "extremely lacking". Well, even those would be false because sometimes it isn't "what is preached", but "what is withheld" that is the big issue.

    If we don't accept and don't teach the whole counsel of God, we are doing a great disservice to GOD, and, of course, to the people. I don't expect you to agree or even understand that, but thought it was necessary to mention it.

    Why don't you tell me some of those called "false doctrines" that really aren't false doctrines, but just "personal false doctrines"?

    I don't like to play games. Well, I do, but not with spiritual things. It seems you do. Don't you have a better life? I can sure tell you how to have a better one, if you desire one?
     
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    Why are you being so vague Jim? Good grief! Answer the question. What specific false doctrines were being preached and which false teachers need to be condemned from the pulpit. So far it sounds like the churches you left are much better off.

    But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
    (2Ti 2:23)

    Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
    (Rom 16:17)
     
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    DOES ANYONE ON THIS BOARD CONDEMN FALSE DOCTRINES?

    Or do you have some "false doctrines" you are in bed with?

    Apparently you guys are in churches where false doctrine is tolerated, depend on "just how false it is".

    Maybe I can help you folks out.

    Ga 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
    Ga 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
    (KJV)
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    This should explain what false teaching is, since you have been wondering.

    Does that answer your curiosity?
     
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    O great, another crack pot leaking out his divisiveness on the Baptist Board!
     
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    30 + posts. Been here since June of 2012. Time released troll. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
     
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