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Discussion in 'Politics' started by Salty, Jan 10, 2012.
The primary will be winner take all
Not really. The South Carolina is January 21!
Actually - Really -
SC, NH, IA are all "open primaries"
Therefore, Fla will be the first true REPUBLIC IAN primary
Thus I think we will see some different results.
That is the point I am trying to make.
Not sure how other States/Commonwealths are, but in NY - if you change your party registration - it is not effective until the next election cycle.
IE in order to vote in the 2012 NY (closed) primary you must have been registered with your party no later than 29 Oct 11. (This does not apply to those moving into NY from out of State or registering for the first time)
In 2008 - Ron Paul received about 3.5% of the primary vote in both SC and Fla, but keep in mind that SC is open and there is no major opposition in the Dem party - therefore many Dem's and Non-enrolled my cross and vote for Paul.
but we will see...
I see, I see! Actually I doubt that many demos vote in the Republican primary in SC.
What do you base that on? It seems to me that in open primary states, people would exercise their right to cross party lines. In our commonwealth (Kentucky), our primaries are closed, so when I joined the Constitution Party a couple of years ago, I gave up my right to vote in the Republican primary. I would vote in the Republican primary if they would change the law, however, better not vote in the primary than have my name on a roll labeled Republican with the party in its present state.
So, to stay on the op, Salty is correct. This is the first Republican primary in the nation. I am against closed primaries as a general principle. It reminds me of closed Communion that is not practiced in our local church. I am against any process that promotes exclusion verses inclusion.
Tonight is the first night I have paid any attention to the election returns. I got the distinct impression listening to the candidates that there are five quid pro quo establishment candidates, and they were all trying to belittle or exclude the person who came in second, in an attempt to diminish his chances in Florida, and South Carolina for that matter. Another way to look at it is there are five trying to become the alternative to Romney, and four of them claim they are a better choice than Paul. That seems very strange to me since Paul thrashed the other four.
Florida has always been a swing state and close in Presidential general elections. It is distinct in the south, and even closer to reflecting the nation than border states like mine. Look at the election results of 2000, 2004, and 2008 to prove my point. In the primary, Independents cannot vote for Paul or Romney. So, while I am opposed to closed primaries, it might be a more accurate measure of how registered Republicans feel about the candidates. This is especially true since the mix of Republicans in Florida would more reflect the nation than South Carolina. I will be watching the returns on the night of January 31, and Salty, thank you for bringing this to our attention about being the first closed primary.
Romney is leading both in South Carolina and Florida. Looks like it will be Romney vs Obama. It's the best a democrat can hope for! :thumbsup:
The GOP has the right in each state to determine the rules for their primary. The first Republican Primary was Tuesday. Florida is the first closed Republican primary.
BTW, I like when parties let anyone vote in their primaries. I don't like being bound by party identification.
Is it the Party making the rules or State Law?
Why should a Party be made to accept outsiders to determine their candidate?
Now if the Party permits it, that is their choice - but should not be forced to.
Roger, Should I be allowed to attend your church and vote in a business meeting if I am not a member?
Have to do some research, but I can't imagine a state telling a party how they have to run a primary.
My church wouldn't allow you to vote, but if a church allowed that to happen it would be fine.
The party, or church, is free to make their rules.
BTW, many years ago Republicans crossed over to vote in the Democratic governors race. The Democrats threw out the results and chose a candidate the Republican won.
Looks like the "bosses" of the Repubs are gonna let the media pick their candidate again, just like they did McCain. (The media poster boy till he sewed up the nomination - then the vigaro hit the mix-master!!!!!!!)
So Robert, I must reluctantly agree with you!!!:sleep:
Same ole same ole--!!??
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But I was going to make a motion that your church make PS, the official church web link! :smilewinkgrin:
I would agree - but would vote against in my church
Good for the Dems -
Four years ago, Rush Limbaugh was encourage Republicans to vote in Dem presidential primaries - I was against it, then and will always be