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Flip-flopping

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Salty, Feb 4, 2008.

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  1. Salty

    Salty 20,000 Posts Club
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    Flip-flopping is a term we have heard the last few elections.

    What is your definition?

    Would it be a candidate changing his view just one time? Would a period of time say 6 months to a year make a difference? How about a candidate who says one thing to one group and something else to a second group, maybe not a direct statement, but an insinuation.

    Or would flip flopping mean changing your view on an issue than going back to your original view.

    Would it be considered changing your view on several issue, or would just one issue?

    Thought

    Salty
     
    #1 Salty, Feb 4, 2008
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    Does this have anything to do wilth thier footwear?
     
    #2 Alcott, Feb 4, 2008
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    Here is how I would define flip-flopping

    Flip-flopping. n. From the verb "to flip-flop." A pejorative term used to describe the conveniently changing political positions of Gov. Mitt Romney. See also "Multiple-Choice."
     
    #3 StefanM, Feb 4, 2008
  4. Salty

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    Are you suggesting that Mitt is the only politican to have a flip-flop?:confused:
     
    #4 Salty, Feb 5, 2008
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    No. It was only a joke.:laugh:
     
    #5 StefanM, Feb 5, 2008
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    Isn't a flip-flopper someone who changes their stand on something while still defending their related accomplishments?
     
    #6 scripturesearcher, Feb 5, 2008
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    Back in 2004, John Kerry was labeled as a flip-flopper. This, as you know, is a horrible thing because he is, of course, a democrat.

    Now we have Mitt Romney flip-flopping on major issues at just the right time to run for president, and it's a non-issue. The reason we are told is because Mitt realized the error of his ways and now he has come to the "right" side of the issues.

    To me is sounds like hypocrisy, but that's just my opinion.
     
    #7 Dagwood, Feb 5, 2008
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    What do you mean by that, little Daggy?
     
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    I think my posting is easy to comprehend. What part is not clear?
     
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    The second statement. How is it a "horrible thing" that Kerry was labeled a flipflopper "because he is, of course, a democrat?" Your "because...." phrase is completely incompetent.
     
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  11. Dagwood

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    My meaning is that the only reason John Kerry was attacked was because he is a democrat. Had he been a republican running in 2004, these same ones who condemned him would overlook this just like with Romney today.
     
    #11 Dagwood, Feb 6, 2008
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    I was for flip flopping before I ever was against it.
     
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  13. tinytim

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    No, Kerry just stuck his foot in his mouth too many times with statements like


    “I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it.”

    then said, that his explanation of his Iraq war votes was "one of those inarticulate moments."
    Kerry's top ten flip-flops


    It was easy to see his flip flopping.. He popularized it. Just like Quayle will always be famous his great spelling, Kerry will go down in history for his flip flopping...
     
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  14. Salty

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    Tim, Tim, Tim

    Don't you remember about that spelling bee. There were actually two ways to spell ( I think the word was Potato), but the version (must have been KJV:laugh: ) was not the version used by the spelling bee.
    Maybe someone can goggle the story.


    Of couse you can check out: http://foolswisdom.com/users/sbett/Quayle-Spell.htm

    Salty
     
    #14 Salty, Feb 6, 2008
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    I am not defending Kerry in this instance, I am using him for comparison. Many republicans will support Romeny in spite of his flip-flopping while they condemned Kerry for doing the same thing.
     
    #15 Dagwood, Feb 6, 2008
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