Food for thought....

O.K.....
Sure....
and 30 years' worth of presupposition couldn't possibly have worked it's way into his subconscious thinking and effected his presuppositions when interpreting Scripture...............Yes, Augustine was a complete "Tabula Rasa"..... (aren't we all)???

Just like happens to all of us right?

Yes.....he "burned it".


Just like every media reporter has their Political opininions "surgically removed"....before they become journalists.
By the way....did you know that secretly I'm actually Cindi Lauper???
It's true.

Pbbbth....

Make your arguments, but don't insult our intelligence.

 

Then, this isn't your thread and your comments aren't particularly helpful .

No.

If you had that hour, you might know.

I thought that I've heard every accusation about Augustine there is....."rationalism" was never one of them.

Only if you don't know crap about him....as is the case with probably everyone on this board.

I'm an Orthodox Christian.......I hold all the fundamentals of the Christian faith and defend them....

I agree with Pelagius....not on everything...but on a whole lot more than I do with for instance...Augustine, who was a heretic.
All I know about you is that you don't have "one hour" to learn.
That pretty much sums up the arguments against him.
People who don't have one hour, don't know anything about him...
And people who still know that they've been told that Pelagius is a heretic....

BTW: One doesn't even have to appreciate Pelagius one whit to care for this video...it's about Augustine...not Pelagius...but, don't let that keep you from cursing him

To the much maligned Pelagians you know nothing about.....
all sin is willful sin...
It's built into the definition.
It's not a weird disease you inherit from your daddy's spermatozoa...

But don't bother yourself...


B.T.W....
Did you know that there are blasphemers who call our Risen Christ a liar on another thread???

I know this because another Godly administrator pointed that out...

So, I'm sure your right on to checking that out.

You're right.
Augustine isn't a Gnostic.
Jesse knows that.
If you had an hour, you would too.

Yes.

Yes, which is why Jesse didn't accuse him of it.

But, you don't have an hour to learn that, because your time is that precious.

 

Again... for anyone who wants some informative food for thought for themselves:
[Video deleted. Same video as post #1.]

 

It isn't that I don't want to be helpfulll
It's just that I don't like to speak for other people.
I want to let the video speak for itself.

But, I don't think you watched the video, so, no, you really didn't catch his own words did you?
His "own words" were in the video, that is what I provided.

The "helpful information" was the video itself.
You may choose to watch it or not
and choose to agree or disagree with it or not.

I'm not interested in speaking for him.

.
This is unnecessary.
I like to let people speak for themselves, that's all.

I don't accuse him of it:
I don't think Jesse does in this video either.

If you watched the video, you might come to the same conclusion.....

It's called "Food for Thought"
Not...."What HoS thinks".

Good grief, that's why I didn't "summarize" Because I don't think jumping to conclusions is the best idea. You've done that, and are debating a video you never watched.
That's why I didn't summarize:
Because it will invariably result in debating a straw-man or a minor point rather than the larger premise.

 

"Eternal Security" is not mentioned in this video, nor is it the topic of this thread.
Why bring it up?

 

Especially ones where no one wants to watch and actually comment on the video posted.

I find the video engaging, informative, provocative and worth being considered.

It's really that simple.

That's why I titled the thread "Food for Thought". It couldn't be simpler.

 

Yes....beliefs and practices of the "Church Fathers" was actually the point of the video...And how one particular "Church Father" was probably or at least plausibly poorly influenced in his views by previous practices and Philosophies.

I would expect him to, since that was the point of it.

Did you really watch it with any understanding?...
Because he didn't quote that much Scripture at all.
And, you seem to have missed the larger point which wasn't so much to make a Theological treatise, or argue for it's validity but rather to state beliefs of those Church Fathers and how one in particular may have been influenced and similarly influenced other Reformation Theologians..........

which explains your complaint that he "Qouted a bunch of 'Church Fathers'"