Franklin Graham: We have Turned Our Backs on God

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  1. Zaac

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    Seriously? Exactly which one of the anti-Christ candidates did he expect to tell us we needed to ask God for help?

    You back a candidate who worships a false god and you have the audacity to come out talking about no candidate said that we needed to ask God for help.
     
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    What Gives you the Power to...

    ...be so judgmental?

    I think all of us would like to know your qualifications, Zaac. So please tell us who died and made you god? What power in this spiritual realm we exist in, came down and gave you ALL the right answers?

    Please don't look at my question as a ways and means to put you down. That is not my intent. And I do not mean to demean or cast a negative cloud over you, but, really, your posts are so full of judgmental innuendos, that after a while, you are annoying.

    Now I may not be the first to ask you this, but I'd love to know how you have come to the understanding that what you say is right, while what others say is just under what you hold as true? Only someone in direct contact with God would have that kind of confidence and smugness in their opinions.

    I only know of one person to ever live that had that kind of favor, and he died on the cross to save my life and forgive my sins.

    Since I joined the board in 2007, I've come in contact with quite a few, no-it-alls, and I can't help but wonder what it is within these members who give them the right to cast dispersions on others and claim their views, and opinions are god like and beyond reproach???

    I'm waiting to hear from you, and hopefully you will respond without being judgmental, or throwing tons of verses in my direction to deflect [sidetrack, divert, cast off, twist, deviate, or whatever] what I am asking of you.

    Please share what it is that makes you so sure that you have all the answers, while the restof us lag behind? :thumbs:
     
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    Not only does he not have all the answers, he has no answers. It was time for this person to be banned months ago. Trolling, inflamming, purposely making false premises for threads, using Scripture in an unholy manner are all against BB rules. The person lingers and lingers. If we could get all posters to ignore the posts, they would go away.
     
  4. Zaac

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    My qualifications come from God to righteously judge all things.

    I'm not a Mormon so no one made me god.:thumbsup:


    The Holy Spirit, the deliverer of Truth.

    Kinda hard to say out one side of your mouth that you don't mean to demean while out the other passing judgment and calling me annoying.:laugh:

    That's definitely not a smugness. That's assurance of what God's word says. And just as was said before this election, Christians have put ourselves in a very unfortunate position of NOW acting like we're concerned about people's eternity while during the election seemingly ignoring those souls, i.e taking down Mormonism as a cult, in order to keep favor for a politician.

    It's the very hypocrisy of which we were warned. I speak so boldly because I know the truth. And the truth is that 78% of evangelicals including Billy Graham and Franklin Graham made it appear as though it was more important to win an election than it was to win people's souls for God's Kingdom.

    And I don't say it with a smugness. I say it with a broken heart that 78% of the folks who are supposed to be the spiritual leaders in this country CHOSE to endorse a 5th generation member and a priest in the satanically inspired Mormon cult.

    They chose to endorse as the authority to be placed over the United States and the free world a member of a cult who lies LIE when he claims to be a Christian, since Mormon doctrine is 100% inconsistent with Biblical Christianity and a Mormon is no more a Christian than a Muslim is. But to have Christians tell it, his penchant for lying is closer to Christian morals than is Obama's.

    The man deceived people by saying he believes in "God" and "Jesus" is his savior, when the "god" of his cult is NOT the God of the Bible, and his "jesus" is NOT the Jesus of the Bible. Romney and those in his cult believe the Bible to be a flawed and incomplete book and look at Biblical Christians as inferior and non-believers for rejecting the beliefs of their cult.

    THIS is the man that evangelicals endorsed. So if you're wondering how I come to the conclusion that what I say is right, look to God's word because my disdain for what WE did this election cycle is straight out of His word.

    If it were more important to maintain a RIGHT witness for HIM, Christians would have searched the Scriptures to see the WICKEDNESS, yes WICKEDNESS behind what we were doing and how we were repeating the folly of Israel and attempting to justify it.

    10 When you have eaten and are satisfied, praise the Lord your God for the good land he has given you. 11 Be careful that you do not forget the Lord your God, failing to observe his commands, his laws and his decrees that I am giving you this day. 12 Otherwise, when you eat and are satisfied, when you build fine houses and settle down, 13 and when your herds and flocks grow large and your silver and gold increase and all you have is multiplied, 14 then your heart will become proud and you will forget the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 15 He led you through the vast and dreadful desert, that thirsty and waterless land, with its venomous snakes and scorpions. He brought you water out of hard rock. 16 He gave you manna to eat in the desert, something your fathers had never known, to humble and to test you so that in the end it might go well with you. 17 You may say to yourself, “My power and the strength of my hands have produced this wealth for me.” 18 But remember the Lord your God, for it is he who gives you the ability to produce wealth, and so confirms his covenant, which he swore to your forefathers, as it is today.

    19 If you ever forget the Lord your God and follow other gods and worship and bow down to them, I testify against you today that you will surely be destroyed. 20 Like the nations the Lord destroyed before you, so you will be destroyed for not obeying the Lord your God.


    Deu. 8:10-20


    I know of many whom God has blessed to deliver His truth at all times without prejudice or little concern about what the masses think.

    I don't know about the others you've come in contact with. But I preach Jesus Christ crucified and resurrected. It's HIS word that you'll hear from me. When it comes to right and wrong, I have no views or opinions. I'm gonna tell you what God's word says whether the collective group likes it or not. And that's even if I have to do it all by myself which is often the case.

    But I don't claim my words to be beyond reproach. I claim GOD's word to be beyond reproach. And it is HIS word that 78% of evangelicals along with Billy and Franklin Graham have ignored.

    So yes, it is with complete confidence that I continue to deliver God's truth.

    So you want a response that satisfies you without using God's truth? Kinda sounds like what Christians wanted out of the election.

    Not the rest of you. Just the 78% who smugly act like they were doing God a favor by disdaining one anti-Christ candidate's morality and claiming the other anti-Christ's morality to be CLOSER to that of Christians and thus accordingly claim God's conviction in endorsing that which is against Him.

    There are entirely too many Biblical Principles that a Christian would have to ignore in order to endorse that which is against Christ.

    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. 1 Thess. 5:21-22

    And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand. Mark 3:24-25

    24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Matthew 6:24

    14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
    15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
    16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
    17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
    2 Cor. 6:14-17

    33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.1 Cor. 14:33

    So no smugness. Just complete, 100% assurance of what God's word says. I abhor what HE abhors. I have no love for the fleeting ways of this world and that's why it's real easy to receive God's discernment where others cloud the way with their political and economic biases.

    And for someone to take down the truth about Mormonism and have millions of Mormons and their false god worshiping legitimized by someone considered to be the greatest CHRISTIAN evangelist of the 20th century speaks to the degree of wickedness behind Christians endorsing that which is against Christ.

    I applaud Franklin for trying to get back on message of seeing people saved. But for any lost person who paid attention during this election cycle, for any Mormon who paid attention during this election cycle, the BGEO has authored confusion that is NOT of God. And the 78% has done likewise.

    And it's with assurance of what God's word says that I said 6 months ago that Romney would not win because of God's PEOPLE CHOOSING to endorse that which is against Him.

    The unGodly choice of candidates was already proof of God's judgment against this nation. And then His people STILL don't get it and set out to endorse( and strongly justify doing so) that which is against Him. Four more years of Obama is what the country deserves.

    Now if someone would like to start a thread about the percentage of evangelicals who endorsed that other wicked man, I'd participate in that one too.
     
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    Why do we marvel at the fulfillment of prophecy? The world has never followed Jesus. The world will never be won for Christ. The world is controlled by the god of this world, the prince of the power of the air. We are near the end of the war against God, initiated by Satan and promulgated by his legions and the sons of the first man Adam with the myriad of man-made religions.

    There are two kinds of humans: children of God and children of Satan.

    God is still calling out His lost sheep.

    There will be a government of true righteousness--when Jesus returns--with a rod of iron.

    Even so, come Lord Jesus.

    Peace,

    Bro. James
     
  6. Zaac

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    AMEN!!!:thumbsup:
     
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    Wow, you get to righteously judge all things... I'm ready to vote you in as pope...someone send up the white smoke! :laugh:
     
  8. Zaac

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    It's right there in Scripture.:thumbsup:
     
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    With this i am going to stop responding to such silliness. I trust the Scripture. It is inerrant. But you are not nor is your interpretation and application of it.
     
  10. Scarlett O.

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    Too bad you didn't give his entire quote. It was really good. It wasn't audacious at all nor did it contextually assert your audacious accusation. :type:
     
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    Yay! Another post full of false premises and unsupported assumptions about others. Let's count them, shall we?

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    So 78% essentially put their Christianity on hold for an election. Laughable.

    You say you know the truth? You lack sense.
     
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    Lacks sense??? That is an understatement. I have never seen anything like it in seven years.
     
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    I was trying to be nice, though I am still convinced he is a troll.
     
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    Franklin is right on. He and Billy have turned their backs on God.
     
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    That is just stupid.
     
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    Frankin Graham's organization Samaritans Purse is reaching the goal this year of having given 100 million shoe boxes to children all over the world through compassionate folks sharing their blessings with those unfortunate. Some of these children have NEVER received a present, let alone a Christmas present and with giving these shoe boxes, the children receive presents and also hear the Gospel, most for the very first time.

    I praise God for those who give so generously and I praise God for Franklin Graham, not only providing shoe boxes to needy kids, but also being wherever a disaster strikes, be it the tsunami in Japan or Hurricane Sandy.

    http://www.samaritanspurse.org/index.php/articles/reaching_a_milestone_for_christ/

    It is not too late to build a box for Christ!! Or to donate for Hurricane Sandy victims, or to volunteer!
     
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