Fred Thompson & Cuba

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  1. TomVols

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    I probably will do some volunteer work for his campaign if given the opportunity. I like him. It's a disappointment that he is a member of the CFR, though. Ken should like him for that.
     
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    That ain't enough, LE, for me touch a Fred Thompson candidacy with a ten foot pole. I enjoy reading Foreign Affairs but that hardly means that I agree with everything in it(but it does present a variety of viewpoints). On Fred Thompson, take a look at this:

    Fred Thompson: Liberal in Disguise LINK
     
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    Thanks for the info, Ken. :thumbs:
     
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    To try to clarify

    The site Ken linked us to isn't up on its facts.

    Fred criticized even Reagan's '86 Immigration bill: http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/...ap3760384.html

    The site that supposedly laments Fred has no marks, but highly rates Lincoln "Throw the borders open" Davis. Alexander and Corker have identical positions to Fred yet get B and A respectively. Fred voted to limit the visas for skilled workers and eliminating food stamps for illegals.

    Fred got a 100 rating from National Right to Life (link doesn't work).

    The site appears wrong about his votes on AA. According to govote.com, Fred:
    Voted NO on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)
    Voted NO on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping. (Oct 2001)
    Voted NO on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000)
    Voted NO on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women. (Mar 1998)
    Voted NO on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business. (Oct 1997)
    Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996)

    I will grant that he is a typical Free-Trader. Not wild about that. I'm also not wild about his voting for McCain-Feingold. On balance, I'd consider him conservative. (Govote rates him as a conservative populist, I think). He's no liberterian, so the Ron Paulites have a problem on spec, but Fred Thompson is no liberal, IMHO.
     
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    I tend to rate candidates on the basis of whether they advocate limited, constitutional government. I just don't see Fred Thompson working to eliminate agencies such as the Department of Energy, the Department of Education, etc.

    If they aren't for significantly reducing the size and intrusiveness of government, then I consider them to be liberal.
     
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    I have heard Fred (like Lamar Alexander) call for the elimination of Education dept, but I don't recall anything about Energy.
     
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    Okay, I stand corrected about the Department of Education. But I wonder how Fred Thompson squares that position with having voted for the No Child Left Behind bill?

    I see Fred Thompson as being the most Bush-like candidate who might in the GOP race - just with a deeper voice. Anyone who likes what President Bush has done as president would most likely fit in well as a supporter of Fred Thompson.
     
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    Probably this way: the Education Dept isn't going anywhere unless most Dems and big govt GOP folks go away. So why not try to reform it one way or the other. That would be my take. I am not saying NCLB is a fix, but that's just my take.

    I don't see Bush and Thompson being that equal. Thompson was a vocal critic of Bush's Amnesty plan. Thompson is less crazy about entitlements than Bush. I'd say he's closer to Bush than Tancredo, Paul or Hunter, though.

    Trouble is, where the heck is Bush on some of these issues? I really have a hard time understanding where Bush is lately. I know a lot of that stems from having to be on defense all the time, but I haven't seen him come out for anything (save, Amnesty) in a while. SS reform? Gone. Iran? Well, depends.

    Maybe I'm just not paying attention.
     
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    I wouldn't vote for him if he ran for dogcatcher. I used to like him very much, until he began defending Scooter Libby. I lost all respect for him.

    I don't, but I am quite fond of you, LadyEagle.

    Hope all is well with you and yours,
    BiR
     

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