Free Will- Result of Emotional Handicap?

I think you fall into the "Arminian" camp; if not, please feel free to correct me. It would be nice to get one of the Calvinists to respond, before I make my final comment.
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Well, it just occurred to me that there might be another question to ask (of both sides) before making my final comment.

 

If the distinction is simply Calvinist or Arminian, then yes, but I personally have more of a tendency to molinism.

 

I didn't say "under His wrath" I said the objects of His wrath...you know those "vessels of wrath prepared for destruction" you Cals like to talk about. If that is the case that those vessels were already prepared then God cannot love all children because some of those children are those vessels.

Well now make up your mind Luke...either there is no transition or there is one...

 

That's exactly where my next question would have been heading.

So: what fruit has this discussion produced?

 

This is simply UNTRUE, in the STRONGEST possible sense. You should refrain from making such statements. Arminius was no less a godly man than Mr. Calvin.

 

Thank you, at least for the qualification.

 

And you're evading. Remember "this is a debate site...we debate here."

 

Actually, there's a whole lot more "vain strivings" than there is debate....

 

Actually the opposite of "debate" is "agreement". I don't think responding to my remarks would be agreement on your part at all.

 

How can there be four fingers pointing back? I only count three (unless I am doing a double point, then I count six).

 

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Now that's funny!