Yesterday, I posted about those in the healing profession (especially those who deal with mental/emotional... problems) must be familiar and capable of using a "toolbox" of resources. Had I thought to look, I would have quoted from "The National Association of Nouthetic Counselors (which) is a fellowship of Christian pastors and laymen who have banded together to promote excellence in biblical counseling." NANC site In the statement(s) is the following paragraph that is appropriate to the discussion found in the now closed threads. There may be candidates who in practice deemphasize or misrepresent God’s agency, power and promises. Perhaps they only pay lip-service to the Holy Spirit’s role in our moral transformation. Their counsel might so focus on the moral law, diagnosing sin and prescribing righteousness, that they forget how the promises of God are daily bread, water of life, refuge in affliction, and source of mercy and hope. They might counsel as if human agency and volition were all-decisive. They might view people as having some innate power of will to “Just say No,” not communicating the whole relationship with Christ. They might underestimate people’s sufferings and limitations (“encourage the faint-hearted, hold on to the weak”) in their earnestness to identify people’s sins (“admonish the unruly”). Moralism is a different sort of panacea, but rarely wears a brand name label. This quote is from the section on what "graders" are looking for when weeding out those who do not qualify as meeting the expectations of NANC certified. I underlined a portion to indicate what my statement in the thread was attempting to indicate. Please understand that at no time would they ever advocate a person not seek medical help in resolving any issue in their life.