Fundraisers/Outreach

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  1. Gershom

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    Does your church participate in any sort of fundraising efforts as a means for outreach? In my previous church, we didn't do fundraisers.

    I'm looking for ideas. I was thinking of having a two dollar car wash for four hours on a Saturday, giving all the earnings to a worthy charity in the name of our church. We want to give financially to the needy, but our church is but a few months old, and funds are few as well as workers.
     
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    When we'e had a car wash ebfore, people in the church sponsered the youth , meaning the money came from inside the church. theres nothing in scripture that allows us to take money for the unsaved, yet Paul told the christians to collect the money. If you want to give you give from your own pocket, not someone elses.
     
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    I'm unsure about the coupling of fund raising and outreach. Do it for free as an outreach or do it to help raise funds for Habitat for Humanity or something.
     
  4. Gershom

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    So you don't accept money from unsaved people? Is that what you're saying?
     
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    I'm thinking along the lines of raising funds for those who need funds (not labor). But as far as doing work for free as outreach, what I have in mind is mowing grass, etc for the elderly or widows. Taking boxes of food to the needy and things of that nature.
     
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    In my view, fund raisers are the means to let people contribute who would otherwise not be able. For example, a person on fixed income may not be able to give the $100 per family being asked for the anniversary so they can donate a cake to the bake sale or food/labor to the fellowship after service etc...

    Our problem, the bake sale or fish fry is usually 95% attended by members. Not too many new faces or walk in traffic. We are careful to say we are ASKING for a certian amount but nothing is written in stone. It always makes me feel bad because the same faces are always missing from these events. I've yet to see a fund raiser financially worth the effort we put into it but that could be because we give most away for free.

    Things like car washes we do for donations. You'd be surprised how much some people will donate for the kids to give them the worst car wash they ever had. I once took my car by a car wash after leaving the one at the Church. You could see the soap film. Then you have the people who will give a buck. Our objective is not to raise money but to invite souls to Christ. While the kids wash the cars the rest of us mingle, fellowship and invite everyone to service. No one gets away without an invite.

    As you probably know, the best way to increase Chuch finances is to increase the tithing membership and plenty of prayer.

    Time is one of the best things you can give to the needy. Most are not trying to be a charity case, they are people like you and I who are down on their luck. We are helping some get enrolled in government programs, resume writing and work with a couple of temp agencies for job placement. We have a food bank which can greatly multiply how far a Church dollar can reach. Helping the needy becomes contagious if you don't limit everyones creative way of contributing. Every little bit helps and all contributions gives glory to the kingdom.
     
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    Our church used www.goodsearch.com

    We have either took ourselves off there, or we were delisted. Still waiting on what happened...
     
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    I am saying, you don't go outside the church to solicite money for the church.
    they want to give money to a charity, they just don't it to come from their pocket.
    THATS WHAT I'M SAYING
     
  9. Gershom

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    Is it okay when an offering is taken at the church and unsaved people give money for the church? Or do you give that money back, or do you throw it away?

    Can you please explain what you just said? Who are you talking about, and:

    "they just don't it to come from....."

    ???? Did you leave out a word or something? Please explain.
     
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    I would like to know what Scripture you base this on.
     
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    Fundraising in the local church to my mind is called tithes and offerings.........period! Then, I am old. If every member tithed, there would be no financial need in the local church, unless someone is wasting monies somewhere along the way!

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    Fundraising in the local church to my mind is called tithes and offerings.........period! Then, I am old. If every member tithed, there would be no financial need in the local church, unless someone is wasting monies somewhere along the way!

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    How many times do I have to explain this..

    You collect money from inside the church, you do not go outside and ask for money for the church.
    Is that clear or do I need to make it clearer?

    In the OP, they want to collect money to give to a charity,,,
    but they want that money to come from the unsaved world, and not their own pockets, meaning they are not willing to give their own money, but prefer to give someone elses.
    Is that clear, or do I need to repeat it again?
     
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    I already told, you, Paul wrote it, I think it's in Cornithians.
     
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    amen Jim.......
     
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    Let me make something clear to you, sister. You have zero scriptural basis to tell me that I cannot go raise funds and give that money to charity. Zero. Secondly, we are a new, small church. perfectly "willing" (you have NO idea what my church is willing or not willing to do) to give, but who has no funds to give out of our own pocket. Third, the money collected would NOT go to the church, but charity.

    Not sure why the stand-offish attitude coming from you, but I don't appreciate it.
     
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    You "think."

    The problem is many folks merely repeat what they've heard and that's about it.
     
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    Gershom, early Baptists addressed this issue:

    "We hold that in contributing to the church treasury there ought to be both a separation from them that are without and a sanctification of the whole action by prayer and thanksgiving."

    "There ought to be a separation in alms and contributions to the treasury as well as in other parts of our spiritual communion (Acts 4:32, 5:13; II Cor. 6:17; Acts 2:42; Heb. 13:16; II Cor. 8:7), therefore they that are without if they give anything must lay it apart several from the treasury and it must be employed to common use (Matt. 27:6,7)."

    -from John Smyth,The Differences of the Churches of the Separation, 1608.
     
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    I can't say I appreciate you and your attitude either.
    But scripture is scripture, please show in scripture this activity of yours is alright.
     
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    Repeat what they've heard, no excuse me, you know nothing, I've read the whole thing many times, but same as with you, I do not have it all memorized.
     

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