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Gen. Powell on the State of the GOP

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Magnetic Poles, Dec 13, 2008.

  1. OldRegular

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    Republican presidents, starting with Reagan, made General Powell, that is a fact. And he repaid them?

    It is also a fact that President Bush [43] appointed more blacks to high positions in government than any other president.

    If Republicans buy into this liberal con then we are dead as a party. The only hope this country has is for Republicans to return to their conservative principles and regain control of the Federal government.
     
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    democrat politicians are the consummate liars. They pretend to care for the poor and downtrodden but are perfectly content with the murder of 4000 unborn babies each day. Has anyone watched Barbara Boxer frothing at the mouth on the Senate floor defending the murder of the unborn?
     
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    Colin Powell obviously doesn't listen to Rush. Rush has been critical of the entire GOP for a long time. They aren't listening to him, they have abandoned his ideals a long time ago.

    Limbaugh does not carry the GOP water. Powell doesn't know what he's talking about.
     
  4. LeBuick

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    What does this have to do with anything? Powell never said the GOP doesn't appoint blacks. The closest he can to race was about calling Obama a Muslim. Powell said "so what if he is Muslim, where in the constitution does it say a Muslim can't be president. Then there were the GOP Muslims going to a McCain rally that really took offense to to a guy out front calling Obama a Muslim.

    When people say the GOP is loosing support from non-whites, this is why. They feel they are the party of white protestant constitutionalist. No one else allowed.
     
  5. LeBuick

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    This is where Bush and Reagan went wrong. They cut taxes which only raises the deficit and will never balance the budget. Bush Sr. finally gave in and raised taxes but it cost him the Oval Office.

    Someone has to pay off the deficit. Someone will have to pay taxes. I can go far flat taxes but if there are people who can pay more and not see the impact then I'm in favor of asking them to contribute to the cause. Raising Bill Gates or some Movie Stars or Athletes taxes won't loose one job or cause them not to spend one nickel. They won't even notice it missing.
     
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    I don't know what Gen. Powell is complaining about. McCain was his kind of candidate.

    And why should Republicans listen to Gen. Powell for advice on winning when he helped make sure McCain would lose with the endorsement of Obama.

    Actually, Republican voters followed his advice. And lost.
     
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    Rush Responds to General Powell

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_121508/content/01125106.guest.html

    From the link:

     
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    With the exception of Powell's obvious racial biases, McCain and he are two of a kind.
     
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    This is wrong. What you are in favor of is to use force to make them give the money they earned to someone who did not earn it.. You do not intend to ask anyone to pay anything.
     
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    I think that's a good definition of taxes... I didn't make up the concept of taxation, I just said that it happens.

    These same people who don't pay taxes use libraries, schools, streets, bridges, sidewalks etc... all paid for by those who do pay taxes. What's new?
     
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    Taxes for necessary public services is not the same thing as entitlement programs.
     
  12. LeBuick

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    So keeping the streets free of homeless starving people isn't a public service?
     
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    Putting money in the pockets of individuals is not the same thing as providing fire or police services.
     
  14. LeBuick

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    I guess that's a matter of opinion. Either way, taxes are taken from those who have to pay for the services of the have-nots. I don't think there's any getting around it no matter how you twist or justify it.
     
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    35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

    38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'

    40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'


    Go forth and help the unfortunates in the world.
     
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    That is quite a statement there LeBuick.

    Do we just want to keep them off the streets? Is it ok then just to lock them up somewhere? What if we just shoot them all, that will take care of the problem right?

    No we all know you better than that LeBuick. It is just that we need to address the root causes of homelessness and starvation not just sweep them of the streets.

    We will always have poor among us because poor is a relative term. Jesus understood this. No amount of compassion is ever going to eliminate poverty because its base cause is sinful human nature.

    Are taxes the way we pay for essential government services? Or are they a way to redistribute wealth? Are they a way to enforce the government's will? Or do they allow the government to accomplish the people's will? There are fundamental differences in the way we view government behind the answers to those questions.
     
  17. LeBuick

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    Absolutely, however first we need an economy with available jobs and unfortunately, job training will be needed.

    Preach on my Brother, however because of that Christians will always have an obligation to charity. But you're right, there is not enough love or compassion to spoil the Christian cause.

    The wealth is already being redistributed. The GOP gives tax breaks, subsidies and other gifts to those who don't need a thing. They make out like kings and earn bonuses 10x their salary. Can you imagine how many people can be fed or trained with just one of those subsidies or bonuses? The current economy is living proof they didn't do much good otherwise, why not try building from the ground up instead of the top down? I've never seen anyone start building with the roof?
     
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    Tax breaks is not spreading the wealth. In fact it is just the opposite.
     
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    Right... It is putting money back int he pockets of the haves...
     
  20. Revmitchell

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    It is putting money back in the pockets of the ones who earned it and its rightful owner prior to its theft.
     
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